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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 80 points 21 hours ago (19 children)

We tried this before and it sucked then, too.

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 64 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, we definitely need less people in this country. I’m sure it’ll help fill all the job vacancies and increase productivity and GDP.

I will make sure to bring this up when any republicans complain that are so many vacancies because no one wants to work anymore.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago

Lebensraum.

It doesn't need to be a real problem, for them to make it one.

The immigrant work force will still be there, they'll just be put in camps and forced to work for nothing, while white working class people are sold the idea of "claiming back" "their" land, while the capitalists take it all over in their name (and never share any of the profits or benefits, of course, with a new scapegoat as for why as they need it).

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Strictly speaking of productivity without justifying Trump's plan in any way - labor shortage increases productivity. Cheap labor decreases productivity. Expensive labor forces capitalists to invest in new equipment and training to be able to produce the same output with fewer labor hours. Simple example - fastening the same number of bolts using manual screwdrivers in more hands vs electric screwdrivers in fewer hands.

Outside of that, removing a significant portion of the population at any one time would be significantly disruptive in many regards.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 31 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

This move actually makes zero fucking sense. Having people in our country who are willing to work less money than the average citizen labor costs are low. That basically means more money for him and his oligarch buddies.

He's already won the election. He doesn't have to keep posturing like this. And he's not going to be elected again, so either he (hopefully) has no third term, or he'll prevent the 2028 elections from being free and fair.

My prediction is that nothing will actually come of this and he's saying this to keep his approval rating high.

Either that or he's even more racist than he is greedy and self-centered

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 43 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

He’s already won the election. He doesn’t have to keep posturing like this.

That was never his end goal, and you're naive to think otherwise.

As for the rest, you're missing a key step - to get them all "deported", first they need to be rounded up, and put in camps (we already past this point a while back), and then since they're already in camps, they might as well be put to work. For free (another point we've past). When they start dying off in big enough numbers for it to affect production, there will be another group marked for "deportation" and rounded up for their turn.

This isn't fascism's first fucking rodeo, and it isn't only now getting started, it has been in motion for a good while now.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

passed*

"We passed that point"

"We've passed that point"

"We've gone past that point"

"We're past that point"

The past tense verb of pass is passed. The adjective/adverb/noun is past.

But it might be hard to fix without losing your link, so we'll give you a pass.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

we’ll give you a pass.

I don't need your pass, my point is perfectly clear, you've contributed nothing to the conversation

https://medium.com/no-prescription-needed/grammar-the-worlds-most-under-recognized-social-construct-a54e096ecc9c

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[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Actually serves pretty well if one's goal were to further destabilise things. People have already been convinced that illegal immigrants are to blame for all economic problems (even though it is easier to prove the extreme opposite through a cursory search on the internet), maybe if the downward slope is gentle enough, people won't start doubting the efficacy of the initially applied solution. Maybe the point was to get them to the next level, get them angry at something else after everything is done with the false problem.

I just don't see Trump actually wanting what's his version of "best" for the country. I think he's on a power play, and the country's just the kindling.

Maybe I'm talking complete nonsense, but this feels like a... logical escalation. To what, I cannot fathom, although we've seen similar movements preclude Totalitarian/Authoritarian regime solidification periods before, where the desperate masses clung to the wrong solution.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 17 points 19 hours ago

I just want to point out that declaring a state of emergency to "deal with" illegal immigrants will allow the construction of large camps all over the country where undesirables can be 'concentrated' for 'processing'.

After rounding up illegal immigrants, maybe they'll invalidate the status of legal immigrants that knowingly employed, illegal immigrants. Or housed illegal immigrants. Or defended illegal immigrants. Of course these people will need to be detained in the same camps while it all gets processed.

The condition of the camps won't be great, maybe the detainees can work in specially approved facilities while immigration status gets processed, this will help alleviate the cost of camp maintenance and improve living conditions.

Maybe the detainees can be rented out to local plantations to subsidize the cost of feeding them.

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Later one. For sure.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 36 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Nothing cheaper than using the military, no siree. What's the going rate for toilet seats at the Pentagon these days?

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 5 points 13 hours ago

$30k, about 50% more than hammers

tho that's in 1996 dollars

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The whole toilet seat thing is as misunderstood. If the Air force needs a new toilet seat for one of it's jets, and that jet isn't in production anymore, and you can't just go to homedepot for aircraft parts, then you have to order a bespoke seat.

Now setting up the tooling for an injection molded plastic seat, only to produce a limited run, maybe in the dozens, $10,000 per seat is a reasonable price.

I'm sure the Pentagon buys toilet seats at the regular price. The interesting thing about Pentagon bathrooms is that it has double the number it needs because of segregation.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

There also the fact that the government has to buy domestic as much as possible. Not to say they don't use corruption to transfer wealth via those contracts.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Wait till you see how much Boeing charges for soap dispensers

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There are dark days ahead.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Winter is coming.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm third generation, but I'd like to be deported, please. Where do i sign up?

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So he's gonna do what Biden shouldve done about the fucking MAGAts. It's our patriotic duty to kill every goddamn one of those Nazi pieces of shit and yes that means your trump-loving mother

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