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I guess we'll see.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe. US history is full of crazy fucked up shit that the nation has made its way through thus far. This kind of situation hasn't really happened in the US before though, and historically these kinds of situations do not work out well. We are past the point of no return in that the status quo Washington Consensus or whatever you want to call the previous era is gone now, whatever is coming is something new and different and the US role and position in the world are never going back to what they were before. Really I would say this process started with Bush II but there is no reversing it now that Trump has won a convincing electoral victory. Whether we're past the point of no return for the US constitutional order isn't really clear yet but it's not looking good.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Appreciate your measured response. I'm wondering how long it will take folks to stop coping out of self preservation and say out loud that this isn't anything we've seen before - it's brand new and can go as far as has been threatened.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could be, but we have thought that before.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

As others have stated, this is an entirely new depth to that thought.

[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It might be for some stuff. I'm worried that it'll have a lasting impact on women inside the USA as well as outside. Inside, they'll have their rights taken away over time. Outside, morale will be impacted. But I'm hoping it'll cause an uprising rather than the other way around.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From an outside observer: it's gonna be harder, but I don't think so. Still, the playbook Trump is gonna try and follow with his trifecta is what his mate Orbán did in Hungary. How hard that is going to be to undo depends on how far he gets.

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