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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) lost her bid to lead Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, defeated 131-84 by Rep. Gerry Connolly in a secret caucus vote.

Reports suggest former Speaker Nancy Pelosi actively lobbied against AOC, backing Connolly by making calls and using political capital to sway votes.

Connolly, 74, cited his experience and record as decisive factors in his victory, despite progressive disappointment over AOC’s loss.

Supporters viewed AOC’s bid as a chance to revitalize Democratic strategy, calling the outcome a missed opportunity for the party.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Absolutely pathetic that Democrats elected a 74 year old with ethical issues with insider trading and esophageal cancer as the leader.

Really putting the Democratic party looking towards the future and ensuring they have a new vision that might actually win them elections with this new face forward.

God, Democrats are stupid and corrupt and again very glad of my decision a decade ago to never donate to Democrats again unless progressives are the leaders and not these old, out of touch, oligarch supporters.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Jeez and they wonder why they lose elections, first Bernie, now AOC.

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

They're not losing elections. They're improving value to shareholders.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 7 points 6 days ago

The DNC broke every fundraising record they previously had. They only lost the election by our metrics, they all got fabulously paid this year.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

[Both feet profusely bleeding from shooting off each toe] "I'm good to run for 4 more years!"

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The last thing a crook like polosi wants in power is someone who is at heart a decent person.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

Nobody cares what Pelosi wants. Her name was included in the title as clickbait trolling.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pelosi is a fucking joke, and its insane that the democratic party bends over backwards to kiss the ass of a corpse that encapsulates all of their failings, rather than embrace young populists within the party.

Democrats lose when they allow their rich donors and geriatic leadership to make decisions that should be made by the voters, or at least in accordance with the best interest of the voters.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

[Supporters viewed AOC’s bid as a chance to revitalize Democratic strategy, calling the outcome a missed opportunity for the party.]

While it would be great to see AOC win this, the reporter is really overstating things in order to drive engagement. The House Oversight Committee has a limited area of responsibility, so how would AOC "revitalize Democratic strategy" in any general way? Why can't AOC "revitalize Democratic strategy" in a general way without being head of this committee? Other Dems will either listen to her or they won't.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

Sentiment.

Humans are a social species as well and someone more left in leadership would probably change things.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

She got sacked over the fact that she doesn’t oppose incumbents being primaried… In find it so ironic that a party labeled as democratic refuses the simple act of choosing leaders via popular vote…

One issue Ocasio-Cortez had to confront was her past support for primary challengers to incumbent House Democrats — a sore subject for many lawmakers.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/17/aoc-loses-gerry-connolly-democrats-oversight

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly how Rep. Pelosi is going to run again unopposed in two years

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Primarying incumbents who wouldn't go along with them is how the far right took control of the GOP so of course the DNC is scared. That's exactly how we can take control of it.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And they put a 78 year old with esophageal cancer in charge.

Fuck the dems. I’m done voting for them.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And they put a 78 year old with esophageal cancer in charge.

Who the fuck are you talking about?

Hakeem Jeffries is 54 years old. He's in charge of the Democratic Caucus. Pelosi has been retired for years. She has no power. AOC lost by 50 votes. There is no way Pelosi caused that. She was only included in the headline as clickbait to troll people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakeem_Jeffries

[–] voldage@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah, but that's not the dude who won. He did: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Connolly

At least it seems to me that's the guy.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Gerry connolly, nancy pelosi’s pick for head of the oversight committee, is 74 and had esophageal cancer.

Pay attention.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 174 points 1 week ago (9 children)

It's great to see the Democrats have learned absolutely nothing and continue to refuse to evolve.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Why would they? American 2 party system just means they have infinite job security, funding and no reason to adapt. So you can either choose flawed Democrats or literal idiots. What will you do?

I genuinely confused how people expect things to be different here. I'm not an American so maybe I'm missing something, but this genuinely seems a system design flaw rather than anything else.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

They learned alright. They learned that they don't need to win elections to rake in billions in donations. They just have to put in a half-hearted effort and the cash will roll in. They really do not care if they win or lose. They also don't care what happens to us when fascists take over as long as there there's enough zeroes in the DNC checking accounts.

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[–] Einstein@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Man, the DNC really hates young people. :( smh.

[–] xerazal@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago

The DNC hates anyone remotely left of center and absolutely LOVE anyone right of center.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

But have the young people tried being born rich?

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)

DNC just hates leftists, age doesn't really matter.

I mean, it does seem like they have a particularly pointed disdain of young leftists/progresives.

they can hate two things

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, they have a thing about not giving power to young people. Everyone has to wait their turn which means not getting leadership positions until you're at least 70.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 105 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Isn't Pelosi supposed to be in an ER with a fractured ego or some shit?

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

I'm just sitting here hoping her recovery is as pleasant as she is.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)

74? Man, I'm so tired of these old fucks... Except Bernie. That guy actually represents his constituents.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would vote for the ghost of Bernie Sanders. I’m not talking about a hypothetical ghost either because Bernie isn’t a fucking liar and wouldn’t want folks to have faith that he exists. He’d fly right up to the microphone with that badass accent of his and let the assholes have it just like he does now, only with supernatural powers that come with being a ghost.

of course, being a gentleman, Ghost Bernie always gets permission before possessing someone.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Democrats are a deeply unserious party even as fascism approaches. They might get what they deserve but the rest of us will have to suffer because of their arrogance. Again.

They will let fascists take over as long as it means they don't need to share their wealth.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Democrats promoted Trump's words because they thought he would be an easy victory. It just gave him free ad time and enabled dipshits to vote for him.

The Democrats promoted Trump's actions in ads because it raised campaign revenue for the 2018 Midterms and 2020. Dipshits just saw them and went "He's hurting the people I hate, based and redpilled!!"

The Democrats copied Republican talking points with COVID, Trans people, police brutality and funding, the border "crisis" and then wondered why a fascist voting base doesn't want a non-white woman running on the platform of "Back to 2016 Trump's America".

They would rather have fascists run America because fascists don't hurt the bottom line and don't threaten the rich, only the working class.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago

The Democrats copied Republican talking points with COVID, Trans people, police brutality and funding, the border “crisis”

I don't remember any of that happening.

a non-white woman running on the platform of “Back to 2016 Trump’s America”.

Treason Trump gave rich people and corporations a gigantic tax cut and raised taxes people making under 75k. Kamala was going to raise taxes on corporations and lower taxes on the middle classes. Tax rates are the #1 thing everyone should be focusing on because wealth inequality is the driver of almost all other problems.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 83 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nancy wants to burn 🔥 the USA down as long as she and her friends stay wealthy

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The oligarchs want fascism. What more could a sociopath capitalist want than a fusion of their corporations and the state; a state sanctioned too-big-to-fail monopoly that is protected and enforced by the military, with socialized losses, yet privatized profits?

Competition is for chumps, and nothing more than a self serving virtue signal they will abandon for higher profits; like all the other virtues they never possessed.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Surely at this point AOC is going to be in the conversation to run for president in four years. She might not be the frontrunner, but she's a notable Democrat with a great record.

The best thing to do would be to have them on-side, and working towards a common goal. By alienating her, that battle for her to get the nomination is going to just be more painful. Her platform will be more progressive, because she'll be stuck in her convictions through being isolated by her party. Her attitude to the old guard will be less about protecting them for their service, and more to do with getting dead wood out.

IMO, anyone that values a progressive platform should back AOC for president right now. Set the wheels in motion, push for stuff you'd think you'd never get, like disarming America, huge tax increases on those earning $1m+, and providing free healthcare.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

god dammit that broken hip didn't do its fucking job

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