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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Ok so now put him in jail wtf?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (12 children)

And bitches wonder why we’re cheering Luigi, when shit like this doesn’t even matter?

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So why did it take so long to release the report? From well before the election iirc. How is this not in the publics interest? Release the 'vote to release the report' vote also?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Evidently DOJ was investigating, so the ethics committee back burnered it. Then of course it went nowhere, and gaetz wasn't pissing any republicans off at that moment so it wasn't reopened right away.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (11 children)

You know, I'm willing to believe that Gaetz genuinely didn't know the girl's age the first time they had sex. The report acknowledges as much. And I'm unwilling to accuse anybody, even someone as detestable as Gaetz, of something that they didn't do especially when there's evidence supporting their claim. And right now, there is plenty of evidence that he did not know she was underage when they had sex.

The first time.

Then he went back for seconds. Anyone who has ever been in an FWB relationship knows how it works. You don't just sit there and make an appointment for every Tuesday afternoon to just get together and quietly fuck like you're in a clinical trial or something. You don't get into an FWB relationship without getting to know someone. There's going to be small talk involved. Playful banter. Genuine conversation. And at some point in that conversation, age is going to come into play. Even if she doesn't directly say "I'm 17!!!", she's going to mention how much she hates the classes she's taking. Or her plans after she graduates. Or what she plans on being when she grows up. Or the fact she still lives at home. Something. Something is going to give away her age, or at the very least cause a reasonable person to at least start asking questions like "So what college do you go to?" to attempt to figure out how old she is.

And even if she's just being paid by an intermediary or something, small talk is still going to be involved. Even the most highly paid prostitute is going to engage in casual conversation to break the ice.

However it ended up, if it just happened once, I'd be willing to bet he genuinely didn't know her age. Then he went back for seconds. At that point, any reasonable person is going to believe he knew, and just didn't care.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hot take: the difference between 17 and 18 doesn't actually matter, and the real problem is Matt Gaetz abused his position of power to coerce young, relatively powerless women into sex with him. Crossing the line of 17 vs 18 is so unimportant in this particular case. Matt Gaetz fights to maintain a system where young women have no power, and utilizes his socio-economic position in that system to sexually abuse those women. Whether she's just finishing up high school, or in her first year of university, we're still talking about a young women who feels like she needs that money to step forward in her life, and Matt Maetz, and many others like him, are responsible for creating that need. To then use that need to get sexual gratification from those same young women is fucking disgusting, whether or not she's crossed the socially dictated line of "adulthood."

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hot take: the difference between 17 and 18 doesn’t actually matter

Oh it absolutely matters in 12 states in this country, including Florida.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i think the person you’re replying to is making a normative claim. they’re talking about how there really isn’t much difference in maturity/development between a 17 year old and an 18 year old. both ages are way too young for this guy, not to mention the power imbalances, etc. but you’re right that as far as the law is concerned, there is a big difference between 17 and 18 year olds.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

i think the person you’re replying to is making a normative claim.

That much I agree with. There's little to no practical difference. And in his defense, if anyone has been to a drug-fueled party, they can tell you how common anonymous (and sometimes public) sex happens. Say what you will about him being at a drug-fueled sex party in the first place, but if you're at a drug-fueled party with a whole bunch of wealthy and well connected adults and engage in sexual activity, it's not unreasonable to assume that the person you're screwing is an adult.

The difference between 17 and 18 can't be brushed off, though, when that difference almost singlehandedly makes the difference between you getting the side-eye and getting a prison sentence.

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

matt gaetz, confirmed pedophile

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where are all the pizzagate dipshits now?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

About to take elected office.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Arrest him like the criminal he is.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sorry, you must have missed the meeting, we do not do repercussions for anyone worth more than $1 million and a light skin tone. As punishment, we will just give him a high-paying political pundit job on OAN. Thank you for your concerns and please get fucked. Sincerely, United States Judicial System.

Edit: I can't spell

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I seem to recall this asshat and his best buddy ~~Fred Flintstone~~ MTG going on about "groomers" all the time.

Looks like we found the actual groomer.

And as usual, it's ALWAYS projection with the qons. Always.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Every accusation is a confession

[–] socsa@piefed.social 34 points 2 days ago

The pedophilia is coming from inside the party?!

Also I love how every conservative is sprinting backwards with the goalposts here.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Breaking News: Thing we all knew. In other news, GoP says facts presented are fake and they don't believe them. Nothing changes.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago

These are the people the modern Republican party puts forth. These are the "values" we are told we need.

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago

I'm sure justice will be done swiftly and fairly

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