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[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not much of a robot if it requires a person pumping air into it to move. That's like saying a bike is a robot, as long as you've got someone pedaling.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

It's actually the perfect metaphor for all the AI hype.

[–] MHLoppy@fedia.io 10 points 11 months ago

I think in this context (particularly with a very quick skim of the paper for some additional context), it it might be more helpful to think of air "powering" this design in the same way that electricity "powers" things. The focus isn't on the energy source, it's on the structural design of the "robot" itself.

Consider it another way: if their system/model/whatever designed a conventional electrically-powered robot without also designing an electrical generator or batteries etc, would you still discount it as "not being a robot"? The problem might be in our expectation based on the language being used. I might also be full of crap haha, but hopefully that's another perspective to consider.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh god, what in the man made horrors is this.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

Pretty cool design tho

[–] WintLizard@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there a link to the video? My device isnt loading any in the article.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s some serious hype for something that barely moves.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Ya I wasn't that impressed either. Definitely way over hyped by headline. It's a way less awesome xenobot that doesn't actually do anything without significant human input.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It’s become somewhat of a cliche in recent months for AI researchers and engineers to claim they simply don’t really know or understand how advanced new artificial intelligence models are coming to their conclusions.

When it comes to designing walking robots from scratch, at least one new AI model has some head-scratching ideas that diverge from the traditional path of evolution.

After failing, the AI repeatedly iterated on its design, essentially mimicking the years-long process of evolution but on a much, much faster timeline.

Eventually, the AI “discovered” the benefits of legs for locomotion and added leg-like features to its design even though the researchers never instructed it to do so.

Researchers say the odd shape and texture of the AI-designed robot are also unlike other previous tools created by human engineers.

Hayao Miyazaki, the Studio Ghibli founder responsible for creating animated classics like Spirited Away, famously said he was “disgusted” by the ways an AI video generator depicted a humanoid figure walking during a 2016 presentation.


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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There are going to be machines in the future where somebody will ask "how does this work" and nobody on the planet will have a clue.

[–] Emi621@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

Think something similar must have already happened with someone's spaghetti code.

[–] Freylint@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Even many traditional programs are too big for any one person to understand. Ie. The linux kernel. The question is what level of abstraction were going to be using to describe its behavior. Computers of full of metaphorical black boxes that are only said to work because they're tested to work the way you'd test an engine to see it's power.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

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