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I just heard that Apple has effectively killed iTunes for windows. They will no longer supply updates of any sort. Which means if I have MP3 music there’s no realistic way for me to put that onto my iPhone.

Now what I’m trying to figure out is if I got a new computer right now and I needed to install a piece of software to move my MP3’s onto my phone (on the basis I got a new phone) Could I download the iTunes software.?

Is iTunes even still downloadable?

If iTunes is not downloadable, how would I move music which I legally own onto my phone?

I would prefer to stay with an iPhone. So I guess the questions are about the iPhone.

My understanding is I could use Apple Music and sync my music archive from my computer onto my phone through Apple Music. But the problem is then have to keep paying Apple Music subscription, which is stupid since I already own the music.

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[–] happydoors@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I haven’t seen anybody else mention that iTunes downloads and .exe exists for basically all versions that came out. Just not on the Apple site. It’s common for people to download old versions to try and work with old iPods or OS versions. Even if there is no “update” for iTunes on windows: what’s stopping you from using the current version until it breaks? It should still it’s job of transferring music to your current device for a long time

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually kinda curious about the purchased music I had on there... Is it still there? The only things I ever actually bought were exclusive albums/tracks from like 2 bands so I hadn't really thought about it until now.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

If you purchased the music then it's still there.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

To those who say "who cares?" I do. I do physical backups of my wife's phone monthly.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] trk@aussie.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

... to Android

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Yea agreed she has an iPhone 12 mini

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Idk but iTunes for Windows has never not been shit. When I recently switched back to iOS from Android I found copytrans. I can’t speak to how secure it is, but it has done a great job of putting all the music I own onto my iPhone.

I like it more than using Apple Music on a Mac for doing the transfer because the last time I tried that, Apple tried to tell me I didn’t have the rights to listen to a song that I literally sang and recorded.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Thank you will look into it

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

As someone who's never used Apple devices I was a bit peeved when my car came with an iPod. I spent days trying out random 3rd party software because I refused to use iTunes. In the end, I settled for CopyTrans software.

You still need to have the iTunes services installed afaik, but you can use this program to put music on your device, pad out the meta info on the MP3 files and sync the playlists without having to open iTunes at all.

Maybe not entirely the answer you were looking for, but it was a workable solution for me after days of trial and error, so I'm hoping I can save you those troubles.

[–] Piwix@lemm.ee 4 points 22 hours ago

Would there be any other way to access the iTunes music/media store? I only use itunes now to buy DRM free music when its not available on bandcamp. As far as i know its been the only way to access and purchase via the itunes store on a non-apple device

[–] DBT@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don’t need an Apple Music subscription to listen to music you own.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes but without iTunes how would you get the mp3 files onto the iPhone?

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 16 hours ago

As someone has already written in another comment, the Apple Music app.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not an Apple user, but can't you just connect your iPhone as a USB device?

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

When I still had an iPod Touch many years ago, that only worked after Jailbreaking. The way they lock down the file system on iOS has been one of the worst parts of the Apple Walled Garden in my opinion.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

3rd party app and then transfer files via USB.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There’s really no reason for iTunes anymore.

Got MP3s? Stick them in a fileshare on your PC and use the Files app to copy them onto your phone. Or run a streaming service and stream them over.

But if you really want to manage everything from the PC, you can always use software like iMazing to do so.

Lots of options, all better than iTunes.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Didn't realize you could music onto the phone in that manner. Will look into it

Edit when you say the files app do you mean windows Explorer?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I meant the Files app on the phone. It can browse Windows fileshares on the same WiFi network.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I learned something new every day thank you

[–] bangsnooter@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, windows file explorer works. You'll plug your phone in via USB and treat it like a thumb drive, moving files back and forth.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Cool didn’t know that. Thank you

And Apple Music will play the songs and see the song info (artist song name etc?)

I do not have a subscription to Apple Music

[–] GuillaumeGus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well I want something with metadatas and number of play.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Metadata is in the mp3 itself tho...

[–] GuillaumeGus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

To do some managing with it.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is great news! Now I can finally go back to using the last good version of iTunes without worrying about it accidentally updating to a later version.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which version is that? I'm interested myself.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I have to double-check, but I think 1.7.2 was the last one with both Visualizer and Party Shuffle.

It's fucking amazing to me that in the decade since I haven't been able to find a music library software that has both smart playlists and something like Party Shuffle. If I had more free time I might have written one myself by now.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Thank you so much. I use iTunes to help maintain a personal mp3 library. I could and probably should use something else, but I guess I never learned. One day. But seriously, thanks for the version tip!

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[–] LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They did kill iTunes as it was too old and the work to modernize it would be too much. However, the functions of iTunes live on in several apps: Apple Music, Apple Devices, Apple TV, and iCloud for Windows. You will just have to grab the apps you need from the Windows Store. Such a fuss was made about this, I'm surprised you didn't know! The Apple Support updated relevant pages to let people know too.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I’m in the minority I guess cause I was happy about this. I hated having to install iTunes just to back up/restore phones. I wanted the full encrypted backup. iCloud doesn’t do that.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

iTunes and such wasn’t working with accounts using self provided safety keys. I finally got Apple Music and iCloud in Windows 11, then promptly installed Cider. It’s not perfect but I can scrobble stuff and it still has lots of features

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I use it for my iPods. They just updated last week!

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hope they don't kill it entirely, or at least move their media codecs out to a separate download.

CoreAAC > all other AAC encoders

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