i don’t understand how attacking ambulances and hospitals in gaza achieves anything for israel
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023
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It gets the brown people out of Israel.
And the US will turn a blind eye once again
The US has not turned a blind eye, it has gone all in on supporting the war crimes of Isreal.
Shit... You're right. That's even worse
There are still over a hundred hostages. Crank down on Gaza...no electricity, etc...and you'll eventually get some intel on where they are at. It's war, and they put themselves in this position.
they put themselves in this position.
The civillians there did not. The last election in Gaza was held 17 years ago.
The median age in Gaza is around 18 meaning the leadership was chosen when half the population hadn't even been born yet, let alone able to vote.
To put that in perspective it's like if the US was still ruled by George Bush and no one had ever had a chance to vote him out.
They surely did, by harboring Hamas and not demanding better.
@Rapidcreek I suppose you probably blame the citizens of North Korea for "harbouring" Kim Jong Un, too. But that's just not how life actually works.
Collective punishment of civillians is always a war crime, but blaming people with no access to free and fair elections in order to justify it is particularly cynical, especially when nearly half of them are still children.
I do. They let Kim be their ruler do they not?
So it's the fault of oppressed people for being oppressed?
You can take a walk through history and see oppressor and oppressed in every era. A common thread is when people are oppressed by internal forces they either revolt and take power or simply live with the oppression. Even the attempt to revolt is important.
Gaza has a two fold problem. First they ruled by Hamas who don't give a shit about them. Plenty of Palestinians hate Hamas, but not enough to make a difference. Secondly, they are oppressed by Israel due to Hamas.
They can either live with this or revolt. They've chosen to live with it.
Man, it's a real sign of living the privileged, easy life when someone thinks this way.
Those people try to revolt and they die. They don't revolt and still die. What kind of choice is that?
Yeah they do. People that stand in front of tanks can get run over.
Palestinians literally protest this situation all the time, but are ignored, or shot for it.
"You didn't violently rebel, so anything that happens to you (and your children) afterwards is your fault." This is some straight evil shit.
So according to you, Hamas is oppressing Palestinians, and Israel is oppressing Hamas, but it's only righteous for Palestinians to stand up to Hamas. Isn't it also important for Hamas to stand up to their oppressors?
No. They didnt.
Seriously. Shut the fuck up. Theres 75 years of history you missed out on and youre exposing your lack of education.
After WWIi the UN created N Korea, because the Japanese that occupied the entire peninsula, had withdrawn and because the Soviets as well as the US both felt they should have control. Russia soon got bored with a sphere of influence in the Pacific.
Got it right so far?
It’s war, and they put themselves in this position.
Did they also put themselves in the inhumane conditions that sparked this war too? Or is decades of inhumane treatment of the Palestinian people immaterial to the situation?
Because Israel is a good part of the reason Hamas is as powerful as they are, so I guess they put themselves in this position too?
Hamas hates everyone even Palestinians. Who knows why they harbor them, but they do.
Who knows why they harbor them
Yeah, who could ever know why Palestine harbors the group that Israel funded to delegitimize the more moderate political parties? It's not like the group Israel funded explicitly advocates for aggression against Israel in the name of freeing the Palestinians from the murderous boot of Israel and their decades long campaign of slowly exterminating the Palestinians and stealing all of their land.
It's a complete mystery....
I assure you, Palestinian civilians didnt put themselves in Gaza. The Israeli government created the ghetto prison known as Gaza and relegated the Palestinians to it.
The basic problem is that Palestinians never got their Gandhi. Instead they got violent ass clowns.
At first I thought this was about a terrorist attack that killed more than a thousand denying their human right to live. Then I remembered those didn't have the right to exist in the first place.
The whole point of human rights, is that they can't be taken away from people. Both populations have the right to exist. To say otherwise simply invites unending religious war.
That's funny, because Hamas denies Israel's right to exist and have said that publicly. Which was the twist in my original comment.
There's bad actors on both sides. The trouble is there's a huge power asymmetry politically right now.
We're in a position where a fascist ideologue religious military group has entrenched itself in politics, that's a terrible position to be in. But we're not going to get out of this position by saying one population doesn't deserve to live
Ah, it's a both sides guy.
I know right! Can you imagine populations of millions of people have different subgroups which behave differently? And you can't condemn an entire ethnic group by the actions of some of them? World is so unfair, be easy if it was simple, we could just kill all the bad guys.
But if one of the populations doesn't deserve to live, who gets to decide which one dies?
Ahhh a kneejerk reaction guy. Seriously. Do you not understand that civilians on both sides are being wiped out?
You've not even seen what is going to happen yet
Okay so your beef is with Hamas then. Not Palestine.
Sure. Know a few Palestinians and their food isn't too bad.
Yeah all those kids in Gaza sure do deserve to die of dehydration.
If you look closely at the picture you'll see that it is in fact a Hamas terrorist, and not a child - don't feel bad though, it's a common mistake ^_^
Uhm...
Given the white coat, that's pretty accurate to what Palestinian doctors would be experiencing...
leave it to Charlie Hebdo to place themselves firmly in the "dumb take" camp
Most Western countries have to be seen as pro-Israel no matter what to deter accusations of anti-semitism or pro-nazism. Charlie Hebdo used to be scathing satire and now is just the magazine for Islamophobic European neolibs or conservatives. Its bush league satire and really low effort and blatant racism to troll Muslims.
Yeah, what could those out of touch edgelords possibly know about terrorism?
the fact that they were victims of terrorism as a publication does not suddenly exempt them from having dumb takes, and bluntly their "satire" is often far closer to actual islamophobia than humor.
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