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[–] RMWasp@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What did you execpt from guti lmao. His modric takes are all you need to read to disregard this dude forever

[–] bakugou-kun@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If you are playing for Real Madrid you need to be ready to handle the pressure and the expectations tho

[–] ThisIsGoobly@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

literally none of them are going to reach the level of messi and ronaldo. if any of them somehow manage to do that, we won't know for many, many years because the thing that made messi and ronaldo so incredible is their longevity at the top. I know it's natural to wanna fill in the space that messi and ronaldo will be leaving but we're probably gonna be entering an era of many great players being simultaneously recognised rather than the freak chance that we had where there were somehow two footballing gods existing at once.

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[–] SambaLando@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fuck off. He's so far away from matching the goal tally and trophy count of Halland.

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[–] NeoIsJohnWick@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He is a fucking midfielder. His every goal will be cheered because RM don’t have a proper worldclass CF.

There will come a time when Jude won’t be able to score and lets hope then this same media wont take him down the drain of criticism.

Meanwhile you have guys like Guti hyping him up ridiculously and unnecessarily.

Everyone sane knows how important Jude is.

[–] Geneo-Frodo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bellingham has started hitting haaland level......a season later.

[–] AbyssalVoidLord@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Like 4 of them are in that madrid 2 games, missed 3 in a aingle game

[–] simonutd99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He just exposed the ceiling of your club

[–] Similar-West5208@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It sounds kind of rude but it's the truth and realising the ceiling is the first step to push beyond it.

I'm not entirely sure if the club wants to realise this too though, the last transfer window was far from convincing.

Feels more like settling to me but it can be kind of disheartening when it happens every other season.

Like how do you make the Ruhrpott attractive to star players when they dont 100% identify with the mentality and the people there knowing that you can pay well but you cant pay Man City/Real Madrid well, knowing you're able to compete for most titles but chances of winning are a different story?

On top of that individual ambitions will always be better realised at the behemoth clubs like chance for ballon d'or, individual sponsoring and contracts etc

Then there is the lifestyle and glamour factor too which you also cant ignore, especially when there is partners or family involved.

[–] simonutd99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah it’s quite a difficult situation for Dortmund. Winning last year or anything in general and regularly would help tremendously. The Ruhr Region is a big push factor for players as well. Paying higher wages is untenable and could mean financial suicide so I understand Watzke and co. A real golden generation of homegrown talent seems like the most probable push for Dortmund imo

[–] BarcelonaLion@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tbh I always saw your club BVB like NXT in WWE. In WWE NXT is a developmental brand where wrestlers go to develop before moving on to Raw or Smackdown. Sometimes the brand does really well that it is the highlight of WWE but it is usually always seen as a place where people develop to go for bigger things.

BVB attracts so many good young prospects that end up having big careers in football but most of them never stay at BVB and instead use it to springboard for a much bigger club. I think if BVB wants to raise the ceiling they need to make it attractive for players to stay and not see it as a springboard but instead a club they can win titles in.

[–] fuqqkevindurant@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (34 children)

Yes. Messi and Ronaldo have both had awful games in their careers. What kind of delusion do you live in where you think they scored and assisted 12 goals every single game for 20 years?

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[–] Other-Owl4441@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Do you feel Haaland’s contribution when he isn’t scoring is equivalent to those two players?

[–] simonutd99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But they didn’t stay which is proving my point

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[–] CackleberryOmelettes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Never change football. I bet 4 months from now we get headlines such as "Bellingham is an overrated flop" when he goes through a small dip.

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[–] simomii@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That almost started after the Atlético game. People will bring up again the Bild article about how his Dortmund teammates hated him.

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