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[–] Automatic_Taro6005@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] FloppedYaYa@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You're not allowed to mention that, Milan fans will get pissy and defensive

[–] cammyg@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Roman was just as scummy as they are

sorry, no matter how you dress it up an Oligarch isn't as scummy as a state that has executed hundreds of people, commits human rights abuses, and creates humanitarian disasters in other countries

[–] Opposite-Mediocre@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't need to. Sports washing worked perfectly. Cleaned through billions of money in Chelsea. Along with that probably opened up many legit business opportunities. Cherry on the cake has thousands of people now like him.

[–] imp0ppable@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They may be owned by a bloodless, money-obsessed US billionaire but at least they aren't just another state-backed sportswashing operation.

E: sigh... /s ... yes it's a joke about Kroenke ffs

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[–] Modnal@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Chelsea was the first to bring it to a ludicrous scale

The 10 year before Roman

After 3 years with Roman

[–] DeLurkerDeluxe@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Chelsea aren't the "poster boys for when football goes wrong" at all, that title sits squarely with Manchester City, Newcastle and PSG, I think.

Oh look, another kid who forgot Abramovich.

[–] inspired_corn@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Feel like most of the other commenters didn’t actually read his article…

I pretty much agree with everything he’s saying. Football has been going downhill extremely quickly over the last 20-30 years. It’s so far out of touch from what it once was.

Between the nation states owning clubs and the hyper-capitalists making the fan experience downright dreadful it’s worrying to see how far the sport has fallen.

[–] gaussian-noise123@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I kinda of feel Poch will turn it around, he is a really good coach and works the best with a group of young players

[–] Silantro-89@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They aren't even in the top 10 of where football has "gone wrong".

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[–] jerrystuffhouse@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It’s the cardinal rule of Reddit

[–] MicrosoftMichel@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No one who gets to the point where they can buy a club is a good person

[–] SeekersWorkAccount@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

And what was the Chelsea Loan Army beyond a "farm" system? It's the same thing lol

[–] DarrenBridgescunt@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe Saudi Arabia owning a club, Qatar owning a club, or clubs like Bury that have gone out of busiensss due to shitty owners should be in & around no 1

[–] Perite@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

In absolute terms Saudi and Qatar owning clubs is worse for the game in my opinion. But Abramovich was one of the first pioneers of sports washing. An entity with a truly shady background completely changing his perception outside of Russia.

I doubt sports washing was his primary motivation. But as a side effect he showed the world what was possible and paved the way for Saudi and Qatar.

[–] Freddichio@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Do you know how they're involved?

Saudi PIF are using Clearlake Investment's investment services, because Clearlake are good at what they do which is why they can afford to buy Chelsea. Shocking.

Brighton are sponsored by American Express, so of course they have ties with every criminal that uses American Express, right?

Exactly the equivalent of saying Man U have ties with Russia, because some russian officials use TeamViewer and they sponsor Man U.

Besides, Arsenal are sponsored by Emirates and had the whole "Visit Rwanda" travesty. How TF are you on a high horse?

[–] GillyBilmour@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

yeah but his analogy sounds more fun and exciting

[–] Bored-To-Reddit@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Football went wrong years ago, it’s not a working mans game anymore. It’s a business for the big clubs, not a sporting enterprise, hence the superleague.

[–] e_rob03@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] imp0ppable@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's the point, it's intentionally hypocritical. I wasn't just taking a shit on Chelsea.

[–] Karsa0rl0ng@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

And may all the bankrolled teams at the moment end up like Blackburn.

[–] The_prawn_king@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

A well run sports washing machine aye

[–] Freddichio@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scenes when Chelsea recruit Thomas Crimp and Scumspawn as their new COOs

I think Scumspawn is gunning for the England job

[–] ygog45@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ok so by your logic

American billionaire who spends a lot = oligarch

American billionaire who is cheap = not an oligarch

That makes a lot of sense

[–] Impossible_Wonder_37@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re singled out because you spent a billion pounds in a year how is the difficult for some chelsea fans to understand. And then to further the singling out after spending untold money you are remarkably bad.

[–] ygog45@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ok so by your logic

American billionaire who spends a lot = oligarch

American billionaire who is cheap = not an oligarch

That makes a lot of sense

[–] FriendshipForAll@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

As a Chelsea fan, it’s been depressing watching other Chelsea fans justifying what we have been doing.

[–] Impossible_Wonder_37@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That logic just makes no sense. The reason chelsea are the poster boys, is because they went from a stable club owned by a dirty oil Oligarch, who then due to geo politics was forced to sell, and he did so to American finance men who are just oligarchs and middle eastern billionaires with more governmental restrictions. And those men took transfer spending to a level no one ever could’ve imagined ball in 1 year. Not only that, but they have been utter shit. Spending a billion and still being so bad is horrific.

[–] ygog45@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

American finance men who are just oligarchs

So like many other PL clubs. Why are we being singled out under Todd?

and middle eastern billionaires

We aren’t owned by middle eastern billionaires

You’re singled out because you spent a billion pounds in a year how is the difficult for some chelsea fans to understand. And then to further the singling out after spending untold money you are remarkably bad.

[–] KeepitSill@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

We were buying quick success in 03-04 and it ended up being a huge success

[–] Homerduff16@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I think Man City, PSG, Newcastle and RB Leipzig/Salzburg are better examples but Chelsea are definitely up there

[–] jugol@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

One is not like the others

[–] duded101@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Zaku_pilot_292@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

"People get inordinately angry. Sure, I grew up in a time of hooliganism, which was a manifestation of tribalism. What football is now is a 24/7 angry tirade. Now everyone has an opinion about everything, but it’s a destructive relationship. Spending your whole life getting worked up about Harry Maguire? Come on, that is not healthy.”

Dead right.

[–] Jiminyfingers@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holier-than-thou? Andy Hamilton is a Chelsea season ticket holder, or at least was until last year. He is one of your own saying this, its not rival fans trying to banter you, or the media getting their knives out for the club.

[–] Extremiel@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I wrote my comment in response to the people in this thread, most of which have clearly not even read the article posted but just used the oppertunity to blame Chelsea for everything.

Should have clarified that, my bad.

[–] lrzbca@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Basically: "My team isn't hoovering trophies up anymore, I don't want to watch it".

I disagree with this, there is something wrong with whole vibe of club. It’s nothing to do with winning trophies. These fans were there before Roman arrived.

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