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[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wasnt there an issue where certain devs' accounts were compromised and malware was being distributed?

EDIT: that wasnt why. Kde connect was removed until its sms functionality was removed due to new security policies: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/mobile/kde-connect-kicked-from-google-play-returns-less-the-app-it-was/

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

So basically, if there's any app where the developer releases a Play Store version, but also has a separate non-Play Store version with added functionality that goes against the Play Store's ToS, Play Protect is going to remove it from your device?

Not flag it, or remove permissions, or freeze it, just straight remove it.

So for example, the Private Internet Access VPN app has a play store version without the ad and tracker blocking functionality, because that goes against the Play Store TOS. But you can get the full version with the ad blockers as an APK from the official website.

Is Play Protect gonna nix that, too?

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure Google will kill off Play Protect soon anyway.

[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your name gives me PTSD of the times I’ve lost Hades speedruns to bad sack RNG.

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Well lets hope I don’t forget again

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't believe that play protect actually scans or does anything to an apk that isn't installed through Google play, but you do have the option to turn it off through the Google play store settings.

*Seems that it potentially may remove apks from other store installs. If that's the case, shut the stupid thing off if it causes you problems.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

So for example, the Private Internet Access VPN app has a play store version without the ad and tracker blocking functionality, because that goes against the Play Store TOS. But you can get the full version with the ad blockers as an APK from the official website.

What?
I have the play store version of Mullvad and it has ad & tracking blocker functionality.

[–] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

without the ad and tracker blocking functionality, because that goes against the Play Store TOS

Yet there are straight up ad blockers on the Play store.

[–] wallmenis@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Does this affect fdroid?

[–] Melco@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Google Play meets every definition of being a rootkit.

How rich is it that Googles closed source malware blackbox software is removing FOSS software and labeling it a threat.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't you still disable it? I'm still sitting on 11, LineageOS, enjoying my file explorer, so I have no idea what they've changed recently with 12 or 13, but I have Play Protect disabled. Never a peep from it.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Where did you get your APK from? My copy from F-Droid isn't even being marked as dangerous.

Also, your webp has a lot of JPEG artifacting. I'm not sure why, but next time you download your screenshot from Reddit you might want to take the compression down a tad. The original is only 40KiB...

Edit: based on someone else's screenshot:

it's probably because there's an org.kde.kdeconnect package on the Play Store with a different signature. "Same package name, different signature" is probably the most basic form of fake app detection they implement and I can see why they thought it was a good idea. Pretty shit that they still seem to kill apps when Play Protect is supposed to be disabled, though!

Or someone hacked a server somewhere and uploaded a copy with malware in it. That occasionally happens in open source projects but you usually hear about it.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m seeing these quite often with people taking the name of the app as “proof” it’s fine. Even if you got it from a reputable source, you should verify the checksum at the very least. Because if you don’t, thinking this stupid feature is stupid, you may just have malware on your system.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except Samsung Wallet was pre-installed on my phone by Samsung themselves. I've never installed Samsung Wallet manually, Samsung did it for me.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Again, not taking a side because it's Google, etc. etc., but just saying from a technical POV. I'd look into it and if I found a false positive, I'd probably just disable it. But the point I'm making is to have that look. Because if you jump to conclusions, then why do you even have it enabled?? Hoping it's going to return a prompt one day:

Harmful app uninstalled

SuperVirus2000 was uninstalled for your security

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

That's fucked up.

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Google thinks anything that isn't Google is harmful(to their bottom line).

[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

to their bottom line

They feel that way about a lot of their own services too

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

It's almost as if they're a business created to make money

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago

As an F-Droid enthusiast, I think Google Play is malware.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Did the same to me but with Samsung Wallet lmao

[–] beaubbe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I still have it installed on my S23 Ultra....

[–] BobVersionFour@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

If everything around you is harmful maybe you are the harmful one google

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

uBlock Origin is harmful to our profitability and was uninstalled.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I would stop using the internet

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago

That's why I decided to turn Play Protect off. Kinda useless for me and only does bullshit like that.

[–] GenitalHurricane@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile, I can't view a single Google service without ads for Temu being pushed hard all over my shit despite it literally being spyware

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Installed my version with f-droid.

No problems for me.

Edit I've made it a rule-always check for open source or non-Google source, installation away from play store is vastly preferred.

[–] naalo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Same here but for LuckyPatcher. Damn.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 2 years ago

Did you sideloaded the apk from dubious source? I have KDE connect too and it's bit flagged. Always install from f-droid or play store only.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I wanna preface this by saying that I run GrapheneOS (GOS), so idk if that has anything to do with the fact that nothing has flagged my version of KDE Connect. If it's a Google Play Services (GPS) thing, then:

  1. I guess it depends on whether you run GPS on your GOS phone, or
  2. Maybe it doesn't even depend on #1, since GPS runs as unprivileged. I put KDE it on my GPS profile, and didn't get any notification about this.

Guessing this is just a Play Protect thing.

Nevertheless, if you're installing FOSS apps, try installing them via Obtanium instead of the Google Play Store.

You can simply copy and paste the source code URL into Obtanium, and it'll grab the APK, as well as notify you when there's updates.

It supports F-Droid, GitHub, GitLab, and other sources.

[–] Dreadfighter23@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

That's due to Google adding play protect to the play store, which scans for "malicious" apps on your device that were installed outside of the play store. If you're someone that likes to sideload and knows what they are doing then I would suggest turning it off to avoid Google removing your stuff.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is similar to how American cops protect black people by shooting them. Stop resisting! /s