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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 81 points 2 days ago (45 children)

I hope that SteamOS finds more of its way into desktop computers. Sure, I don't trust Valve; just like I don't trust any other corporation. But it's like fighting a big cancer with a smaller meta-cancer, if they hurt Windows/Microsoft I'm happy.

Plus its current relationship with GNU/Linux is symbiotic.

[–] rosa666parks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

Valve is the chemotherapy/radiation to Microsoft. Not quite a cure but both are still deadly.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think Microsoft has ever understood or cared how much pc gaming has added value to windows.

Which makes the strategic defeat here of failing to understand they are fucked longterm all the more satisfying.

[–] __nobodynowhere@startrek.website 41 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Microsoft understood in the 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2V9TFrmQ_Q

St. John recognized the resistances for game development under Windows would be a limitation, and recruited two additional engineers, Craig Eisler and Eric Engstrom, to develop a better solution to get more programmers to develop games for Windows. The project was codenamed the Manhattan Project, like the World War II project of the same name, and the idea was to displace the Japanese-developed video game consoles with personal computers running Microsoft's operating system.

To get more developers on board DirectX, Microsoft approached id Software's John Carmack and offered to port Doom and Doom 2 from MS-DOS to DirectX, free of charge, with id retaining all publishing rights to the game. Carmack agreed, and Microsoft's Gabe Newell led the porting project. The first game was released as Doom 95 in August 1996, the first published DirectX game. Microsoft promoted the game heavily with Bill Gates appearing in ads for the title.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know it's correct but reading "Microsoft's Gabe Newell" actually made my eye twitch.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Microsoft has had brief moments like this but systematically they have behaved consistently like the only thing that matters to them is enshittifying the work environment of office workers.

The examples you gave are interesting precisely because they are a brief departure from the norm.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft made Flight Simulator before they made Windows, so I'm sure they must have cared about games more during that time period.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I am not saying microsoft hasn't dipped their toes in to pc gaming but for a company of that size that is really the most you can say of their efforts compared to the immense solidity, staying power and loyalty pc gaming embued in windows for younger people growing up with computers (not saying this category of people liked windows just that they valued it).

This is ALL gone and microsoft is about to figure out that while business tools are their main industry the supposedly impenetrable moat they thought that gave them was far more a byproduct of a generation of nerds growing up pooring time into windows before they ever even entered the workforce than it was a dynamic of their dominance in corporate business software.

Whoopsie!

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[–] ineffable@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Microsoft's Gabe Newell"

Lol

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 24 points 1 day ago

He left Microsoft almost immediately after Doom 95 was released specifically because he didn't like the direction Microsoft was going.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's kind of wild how much Microsoft failed to capitalize on PC gaming over the last 20 years. Arguably PC Gaming has thrived in spite of them, not because of them.

Valve was smart to understand how Microsoft could threaten their business model but it barely mattered considering how many rakes Microsoft stepped on over the years. Don't even get me started on Games For Windows Live.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Microsoft recently announced a handheld for Xbox. They’re going to half ass this they way they did with windows phone.

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/08/xbox-handheld-details-emerge-ces-microsoft-talks-windows-integration-22321335/

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

If it ran SteamOS, I'd have died laughing.

[–] __nobodynowhere@startrek.website 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They are always late to the party and they have an image problem

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

And they haven't managed to come up with a decent product in decades.

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[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 55 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Steam needs to drop a whole OS for PC.

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)
[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

~~Note that the SteamOS download on that page is NOT the current version of SteamOS used on the Steam Deck, it's the 2-3 year old version that Valve released a while back and doesn't have most any of the actual improvements to SteamOS that make it worthwhile. The only way to get the current SteamOS is to download the recovery image for the Steam Deck at https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/1B71-EDF2-EB6D-2BB3 and install from there.~~

Linus from LTT did a video about getting it up and running here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdR-bxvQKN8

EDIT: As per usual, Linus didn't do good research and was incorrect about the SteamOS version available at that link, updated to strike the incorrect info.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, Linus didn't actually bother clicking the links. The old OS download links redirect to the arch based steam deck os

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, Linus didn’t actually bother clicking the links.

Ya know, somehow I'm not surprised to hear LTT didn't do their research

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why anyone ever watched their garbage videos is beyond me.

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