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Three things are no secret: 1) Elon Musk benefits more than any other individual from Tesla’s success, 2) Elon Musk has gotten extremely involved in political matters (emphasis on “extremely”), and 3) many people won’t buy Tesla products because of those first two facts.

New research from JW Surety Bonds finds that 1 out of 4 Americans “avoid Tesla’s technology due to their opinions on Elon Musk.” That’s a full quarter of the US public that won’t consider great electric vehicles, including the best selling vehicle in the world, because of Musk’s highly abnormal involvement in US politics.

Before we get to more of the research, it should also be noted that Musk has been getting more and more involved, including in highly abnormal and extremely right-wing ways, in European politics — in the UK, Italy, Germany, and other major auto markets. Without a doubt, this is starting to impact consumer behavior in Europe as well.

I can’t think of anything else as significant in consumer product sales. Yes, there are some other highly politically engaged business people, but they aren’t so directly involved or tied to significant mass-market products. (I’m not counting the MyPillow guy, for example.) There are founders and CEOs of major corporations who are known political actors, but not so openly and loudly that they draw widely significant scrutiny or tarnish the brand they represent.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

He claims America first and then releases newest version of one of his cars to China first.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

These slime balls have no shame. Now that he has helped fuck up America he is working on doing the same for the UK and Germany.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

He's also attempting to put a robotaxi on the roads that WILL kill people in its current iteration, and he's trying to leverage his political spending to ensure that Tesla isn't liable for his death traps.

He's the worst kind of billionaire.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm trying not to buy a new car in general. If my car (ICE) got totaled, I'd consider a used Model 3 or Y because you can't really beat the bang for your buck, but I'd rather hold out for a used Rivian R2 or R3 in a few years.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Due to the way the world is developing .... I never did buy new vehicles before, but now I'm convinced, I will never ever buy any new vehicle ... gas or electric.

I'll drive a used dumpy rusted out car or truck until I can't any more.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

100%. New vehicles have so many stupid knickknacks to pretend to be "luxury" that make them break easily and difficult+expensive to fix.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago

Planned obsolescence ... purposely designing things to break down over a certain amount of time

If I find a vehicle model that lasts a long time, that is a good vehicle to have and hold on to. One of the vehicles I drive is a 2004 Volvo Stationwagon. Everyone pans it and says it looks too plain and dull ... but it has 400,000 km and the interior still looks brand new, minimal problems, minimal maintenance and it actually runs great and lasts forever through Canadian winters.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

That and the tracking/data collection. My car is a 2007 (pre-black box) and I repaired nearly everything on it to ensure it will keep functioning soundly. I see no personal value in purchasing a new car at the moment even though I can afford it. I am happy to save that money. Another reason is that anything ICE is insanely complicated and EVs still seem to be finding standards that I am still learning about. Even choosing EV, they still track/collect.

There are a couple vehicles that I love the shapes of and I am sure they'd be fun, but I can't readily accept the dystopian mechanism underneath the gleaming hood.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

How many of those 25% have the resources to consider buying one in the first place?

Tech people and bankers know where they stand.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I noticed a cybertruck downstairs when I was vaping on a bench. I wrote the word “stupid” on a sticky note when I got back to my desk. If the thing is still there when I go to lunch in 30m, I’ll put it on the driver-side window.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Please don’t do this. It will have the opposite effect of what you want.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 19 hours ago

It was still there when I left for home. I made sure to take my vape breaks out of sight in case the owner was a big meathead with hurt little feeling.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

yeah wait until it's frosty out and lick your name on it instead

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

There's cameras everywhere, just so you know.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 23 hours ago

Would they buy Tesla if Elon were visited by Luigi?

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