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“BD” refers to Franco-Belgian comics, but let's open things up to include ALL Euro comics and GN's. Euro-style work from around the world is also welcome!

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For the last 10-15 years I've been trying to branch out my BD and Euro comics reading, yet I regularly seem to be reminded (to the point of bafflement) how much *more* excellent content there always is to discover.

Take the cover pic above from the premier album of Carmen Cru, by Jean-Marc Lelong. I randomly bumped in to it looking through a defunct, BD tumbler acct, and immediately thought it absolutely delicious, and even kind of Halloween (or orc?)-themed. The series first appeared in Fluide glacial magazine in 1981, and later came out in album form (8 total).

Altho I'm just getting in to this series, I already love the excellent ink-work. Even better, the title character is just hilarious, and the stories, highly amusing. Here's the very first two pages published, from the short story The Scammers:

In which Carmen wants to make a bank deposit, tries to strong-arm her way to the front of the line, and is told she must start at the back (like everyone else).

So she duly heads to the back... then goes right back to the front of the line, this time on the other side! Assured again that she must wait her turn, she walks over to the bank manager's office and interrupts things, once again asking to make a deposit(!)

Told that she needs to see the teller for that, she complains that she already tried but was refused service, and even insulted. Hearing that, the bank manager reluctantly begins to appease her. [the story concludes with Carmen winding up making a fool and petty servant of the manager, incidentally ruining the client's morning]

To give a little background on her, Carmen is essentially a deranged, misanthropic old recluse who's also a master of bending people to her will. I sense that she's also designed to be a certain commentary upon French provincials from an earlier age. This isn't the first time I've seen this sort of formula at work, but I'm really impressed so far with the skill which in which Lelong carries it all off.

The French WP page gives further background in amusing style, and is translated here.

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[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What a funny character. She must be the most grumpy old lady in the world :D I like the drawing with the cycle because often cycles are drawn in far from technically correct ways. In this case though, you can tell the artist actually had looked at a bike before. Everything except a few parts is pictured correctly and in detail. Even the adjustable race plus the lock nut of the headset and the butterfly nuts on the hubs have been drawn. The omission of spokes, brakes and cables makes sense because they are cumbersome to draw and not that relevant. The result is a really good balance between technical correctness and drawing effort in my opinion.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Wow, what an eye for detail. oO Are you a biker, mein herr?

Interesting you point out the omissions, as it brings us to a certain classic principle in art, as in-- how much detail to go for vs. how much to omit? Personally I tend to be a fan of 'less is more,' while at the same time trying to persuade the viewer that 'it feels like all the necessary detail is still there.'

There's also the situation of too much detail potentially weighing an image down, making it feel too 'busy' compared to the rest of the piece. For example, it's possible that adding the brake cables and spokes would have unbalanced the image, bringing attention to the figure of the ~~old gargoyle~~ Madam Cru, who might look under-detailed in that case. Just a theory, anyway. You know I'm always up for talking about art. ^^