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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Tim Cook is really playing both sides of the fence here.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, he did give a generous "personal donation" to the Trump inauguration.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He was going to give it to whoever won. Of course he wants to be on the good side of those in power. It's not about the president, it's about Tim Cook.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's about him being a dipshit.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you are in charge of a company whose market cap is larger than most nations’ GDP, you have to engage in diplomacy. Sometimes that’s blatant and overt corruption.

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

Maybe his interpretation of DEI would be more H1Bs from India?

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 1 day ago

He always has.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Can someone smarter than me (I know, it’s a low bar) explain how DEI is unconstitutional? Especially when it comes to private enterprises like Apple and Costco?

Edit: okay, I found a decent article that lays it out. While I agree with the basic premise, I know its effect won’t be more equality.

[–] CitricBase@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

DEI is basically "you know that thing we do where we only hire from the old boys club at our favorite ivy league university? Let's hold off on that."

Companies benefit from DEI policies because they expand their hiring pool, so the company ends up with better talent. They're still aiming to hire the best out of that pool, of course. Companies are motivated by profit, not by reparations.

I know its effect won’t be more equality.

Its effect will be more equality. Unfortunately that is not a good thing for the old boys club, which is what motivates the FUD and disinformation you've heard regarding DEI as a buzzword.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's usually more than just "not only hiring old white dudes" but a conscious effort to make the place more representative of society by intentionally hiring people of diverse gender/ethnicity/handicap instead, sometimes leading to processes being closed to people who aren't part of certain groups, which might in theory go against some laws depending on where you live, but the same thing can be achieved by just wasting time filtering out white men's CV or just not calling them back after interviews, so I personally don't mind just being excluded and giving others a chance, if they don't have non white dude applicants then I'll get called and otherwise I've got plenty of doors open to me, more than most in fact and that's not ok.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My understanding is it's basically pulling the uno reverse card to suggest it's anti-white behaviour.

"I got passed over for a promotion cause they needed another minority manager instead of a white one" type stuff

I'm not American so no idea what your constitution says.

[–] galaskorz@discuss.online 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The constitution say very little, yet people love to interpret it.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (43 children)

the whole DEI inititive generally is to get people who historically underprivileged more positions at work. this however in a few instances, would lead to someone being hired because of their race, rather than skillset. Theres ongoing anti sentiment who fully believe that anything with DEI has made a company gone downhill (with basically 0 evidence, or very anecdotal evidence proving so)

Constitutionally, some claim it to be unconstitutional because of the 14th amendment that states:

“No state shall...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

as the idea of affirmative action, or DEI programs bascially give minorities a higher chance of being hired, therefore the idea is that people were not equally protected under law.

basically programs typically put Whites (and Asians in some contexts, tech jobs and universities) at a disadvantage.

personally, i think most of it is hubabaloo, and most companies know(or should know) the minimum requirement they are looking for out of an employee since most of them already want the cheapest person in the building regardless of race. I just think the argument that they wont hire the best person suited for the job a fallacy, as if they were THAT good, then they would never get passed up to fill some racial quota. No one is going around for example passing up on Jim Keller (cpu architecture guru) over a minority designer who has little experience. for the jobs that require the best, a company will look for it regardless.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

“No state shall...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Republicans have gotten away with breaking this so many times...

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Well y’see there’s this one weird trick where you can declare people not people anymore

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Correct, unless it's for work that doesn't require special qualifications then it's usually a question of "out of those employees with very similar qualifications, is one of them part of an ethnic minority/a woman/someone with a handicap?"

[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like your definition, but I would argue the question is less "are they an ethnic minority or woman?" And more "do they have likely have experiences and perspectives different from our existing team based on their demographic?" A homogenous team is more likely to share a blind spot or weakness. It's why varied backgrounds, ages, and gender identities are helpful.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Right, a white person joining a team that's 100% non white would be considered an ethnic minority in this case.

I understand your point but HR won't do a background check to figure out if an Indian candidate comes from a socio-economic background that makes them closer to the rest of the well off engineers team already in place vs a white guy that might have been raised in a very poor household. That's why it's usually ethnic origin, gender, handicap and surface stuff like that.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Thank you. That was easy to understand.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol I am sure as soon as DEI practices are removed everyone will only get hired based on their skillset.and not their "club memberships". what a bunch of dickwads, as if people don't know what you are trying to achieve.

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