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Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called Elon Musk “one of the most unintelligent billionaires” she has ever met.

She criticized DOGE for placing unqualified 19-year-olds in Treasury positions and failing to do “their homework.”

Musk’s team has accessed the Treasury’s $6 trillion payment system, raising security concerns. Ocasio-Cortez warned of his “lack of intelligence and expertise,” calling him “morally vacant.”

DOGE has also shut down USAID and moved it under the State Department.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 109 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Musk is the personification of an idiot’s concept of a genius.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In my job I've dealt with a number of multi-millionaires and I'm usually struck by just how dumb and incompetent they are.

The economy does not reward hard work or intelligence, it rewards hubris and megalomania.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"But I have no intelligence but plenty of hubris with aspirations of megalomania" - The Average American.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The funny thing is that as much hubris as some folks show, they have nothing on those that have it in them to get to multi-millionaire status.

You'll see someone so full of hubris and just talking out of their ass, but faced with a question or statement that derails their talk, even those people will kind of pause while their brain struggles with what the hell just happened, before carrying on generally still out of their ass, but they stammered for a bit to get back to that hubris.

Those that have the real hubris in them, don't even bat an eye. They don't even consider for a millisecond that information inconsistent with their world view is worth processing.

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[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's why trump and maga have so much faith in him.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yep. Weirdly, they thought EVs were going to make them gay, but now they loooooove fElon. Probably because they now realize he's maybe just as stupid as donvict.

Please, infamous hacker 4chan, come get your boy.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's a Nazi. Therefore, I couldn't care less about him at all.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If only it could work like that.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's because the guy is a total fraud.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And always has been. He's a snake oil salesman who has never built a product someone wants to buy in his life. When his creativity is given room (aka the Cybertruck) it's overwhelmingly unsuccessful.

His start was in PayPal where he was just a money guy with stupid ideas that kept getting shot down. It's why he owns x.com he'd wanted to rebrand PayPal to X after the PayPal brand became well entrenched (which was an absolutely awful idea).

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Actually he got his start selling some random website to Compaq in the middle of the "everyone throw their money at random websites" craze of the late 90s. So he was among the folks that won the dot-com lottery.

Then he took his winnings and rolled it into x.com, which was solidly on a trajectory to fail. He also wasn't allowed to be in charge.

Then after the merger with the much more popular PayPal (which could have done just fine without X.com ever coming along), Elon somehow got put in charge. He wanted to run the whole thing on Windows and it was a terrible terrible decision, with Paypal only being saved by kicking Elon out. Despite his role being just briefly in charge of it taking a wildly successful product and nearly destroying it only to be kicked out, people popularly credited him as 'the Paypal guy'.

So a guy got lucky and got $22 million from Compaq, and then $170 million from eBay because he still had a ton of PayPal stock despite no longer allowed to make decisions about it, and was carried by his "he was in charge of PayPal!" creds into Tesla, rewriting history of that company to declare himself a visionary founder rather than an early investor after the fact.

All the while the media sucking up to him hard, putting him in various cameos and references to portray him as a great mind of modern times, a real life Tony Stark. Feeding his ego while people close to him personally wrote about what a loser douchebag he was.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've read most of this stuff; someone needs to do a 1.5-2 hour documentary on this guy and just what a total FRAUD he is, and how nearly everything most people think they "know" about fElon is just flat wrong.

Know of anything like that? Even a reputable thing on Youtube would be nice if someone summarized it all.

I'd like to point people at such resource(s) when I can. Even some lefties I know don't really quite understand just how fraudulent fElon is; they still think "he's a smart guy with good ideas and really pushed things forward for cars, etc."

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget he almost ran it into the ground twice.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He's also currently running both Tesla and X into the ground... and he'd probably run SpaceX into the ground if it didn't start off with incredibly passionate and intelligent people.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tesla only survives because apparently missions of assholes have no morals and keep buying them. Including at least one person that reads this comment.

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 67 points 3 days ago (3 children)

His dock doesn't float, his wonder fuel is a disaster, his grasp of disruption theory is remedial at best, he didn't design the puzzle boxes, he didn't write the mystery and voila, it all adds up, the key to this entire case, and it was staring me right in the face. Like everyone in the world I assumed that Elon Musk was a complicated genius. But why?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The real answer is he oaid really good publicists to craft his image. The reality set in when he fired that team.

He can remove the mask and breathe the racist air deeply. He no longer has any fear.

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[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just watched this movie. Not a great one, but the critique on musk was spot on

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's pretty heavy-handed, but if the last five years have taught me anything it’s that media literacy is so shit in this country that shows like The Boys have to literally tell you that Fascists Are Bad before these dunces start to think they're being mocked. (And I did enjoy the film, though it wasn't as good as the first, and I hope they crank out a few more Detective Foghorn Leghorn stories)

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm lost, what movie are we talking about here?

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[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Whatever debatable intelligence he once had is gone, fried by drugs and huffing Xitter.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

From what I have read, he's basically always been this way, but it was more hidden. People who knew him personally would write about his nature, but the media swept all that under the rug because they wanted to relish in the concept of a hotshot tech genius billionaire, and his ego drove him to be quite eager to play that part.

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[–] HairTransplants@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

he has issues

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No wonder he thinks education is redundant.

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