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    [–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

    I'm actually just about to start up my server again on a rp4. It's been like 5 years since I've used it. Is dietpi still the best way to go about making a Plex media server/bare bones desktop environment that I can access with 'no-machine'?

    I sear no machine just broke my autoboot setup one day and I never got around to fixing it. What do you nerds think?

    I'm not interested in video streaming, just hosting my music collection and audiobooks. I remember FTP being a pain to transfer music files from my phone

    [–] teuto@lemmy.teuto.icu 7 points 4 hours ago

    See, I don't pay for the electric bill to keep my collection of old enterprise equipment running because I need the performance. I keep them running because I have no resistance to the power of blinkenlights.

    [–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 hours ago

    Absolutely the best way to learn though. The number of places I've walked into that had no clue about containers or even a vpc and thought Google drive was an API is too damn high.

    [–] CPMSP@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

    Unraid FTW.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    This struggle usually takes place over a weekend.

    [–] josefo@leminal.space 10 points 7 hours ago

    This guy selfhosts

    [–] capuccino@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

    I had to buy a lenovo thinkcentre mini because was cheaper than a brandnew raspberry pi.

    [–] randombullet@programming.dev 7 points 7 hours ago

    Or you learn proxmox and running everything as a VM

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 35 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

    i think the best choice is a cheap used pc or laptop, or server. Reduces electric waste. I also host my own server on a 19 year old Dell Insprion 1300

    [–] null@slrpnk.net 13 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

    Reduces electric waste

    A lot of older equipment actually wastes more electricity.

    But it will cut down on electronic waste.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    not always. especially laptops

    [–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago

    not always a lot of

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    [–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    Yes, but also no. Older hardware is less power efficient, which is a cost in its own right, but also decreases backup runtime during power failure, and generates more noise and heat. It also lacks modern accelerated computing, like ai cores or hardware video encoders or decoders, if you are running those appd. Not to mention lack of nvme support, or a good NIC.

    For me a good compromise is to recycle hardware upgrades every 4-5 years. A 19 year old computer? I would not bother.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

    my 19 year old laptop runs the web server just fine, and only needs 450 mb ram even with many security modules. it produces minimal noise

    [–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 9 hours ago

    I have a Lenovo M710q with a i3 7100T that uses 3W at idle. I'm not mining bitcoin, server is idle 23h a day if not more.

    [–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 7 points 9 hours ago

    Bro, I am just hosting a WordPress backup, an RSS reader, and a few Python scripts

    [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

    Think centre tiny here

    Low consumption, two ddr4 slots, one 2.5" slot and one nvme slot! Lots of outside slots.

    Costed less used than a new pi too. They have gotten too expensive IMO.

    [–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 9 hours ago

    Pi has gotten crazy expensive.

    [–] capuccino@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    lenovo thinkcentre m910q supremacy

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    [–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 9 hours ago

    Yeah what I’ve always done is use the previous gaming/workstation PC as a server.

    I just finished moving my basic stuff over to newer old hardware that’s only 6-7 years old, to have lots of room to grow and add to it. It’s a 9700k (8c/8t) with 32GB of ram and even a GTX 1080 for the occasional video transcode. It’s obviously overkill right now, but I plan to make it last a very long time.

    [–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    I still like vms on digital ocean. I guess I'm a seething soydev.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    I use a DO droplet with docker compose. Filthy dev here too. Much cheaper overtime than buying and hosting home server equipment.

    [–] jonne@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Some stuff you want to have in your house though, like storage and stuff like home assistant.

    [–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

    I'd never trust DO with my vintage europorn collection

    [–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 63 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

    I need a kubernetes cluster with high availability, load balancing and horizontal pod autoscaling, because that is something I want to learn. I don't care that it's just for wife's home-made dog collars webshop.

    [–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

    This is the way

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    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 91 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    I need

    It's just fun to play with, there is no "need".

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    [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 38 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

    A mini PC is a good middle ground. Mostly for the video transcode and machine learning power.

    [–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 hours ago

    Yeah, a mini PC... or if you already have one, why not 5 mini PCs?

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    [–] passepartout@feddit.org 68 points 15 hours ago (11 children)

    Switched from a raspberry pi 3 to a second hand x86 thin client (lenovo thinkcentre m920q) because raspberry pi 4 were not available at the time. Made me learn proxmox and a bunch of other cool stuff my raspi couldn't handle.

    I'm rooting for ARM / RISC-V to become more popular in desktop computing / servers though.

    [–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 43 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    I've always liked riscv. Just the idea of literally everything on the device being open source is a fun idea. Manuals to everything.

    [–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    Just because the ISA is open source doesn't mean that the end product or even the design will be open source.

    RISC-V is licensed permissively, giving anyone the right to make a proprietary (or FOSS) RISC-V processor.

    Often times, you'll see mostly open source cores, but then some extention is proprietary.

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