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I have a cheap bedslinger at the moment, it prints well enough and with decent speed, but it's a little finicky whenever I need to start a new print and I sometimes have to stop and restart 2-3 times in the beginning to get the first layer good. I'm also having some issues with ASA warping (especially on overhangs) it's enclosed and heated to ~45°C.

I was thinking of building a voron, but I don't really have the time to have a printer project, so I wanted something that's close to what Bambu labs deliver, but ideally with the accessibility of klipper+mainsail.

I thought of getting the Prusa core one, but seeing reviews of it has really put me off it.

The printing speed is slow AF...a 37min benchy on a coreXY in 2025, WTF!? My bedslinger does it in less than 30min. The ecosystem Prusa delivers seems half baked at best, with no LAN access to the full printer interface? I'm used to klipper+mainsail which is amazing and offers full local control of every aspect of the printer settings/config, print jobs/queue printing progress and actual live video feed (Prusa is 0.1fps!?). At a 1350€ price tag, plus another 100€ for camera and accelerometer, it just seems like I'm not getting much for my money.

Is there anything out there either already running klipper, or can be flashed with it, that's close to Bambu labs?

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Qidi runs Klipper.

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The printing speed is slow AF...a 37min benchy on a coreXY in 2025, WTF!? My bedslinger does it in less than 30min.

The default Prusa profiles are incredibly conservative. They prioritize quality and part strength over speed. If you need the speed you can easily bump it to 200% with minimal issues.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

From the reviews I've seen, quality is not really above average despite those slow speeds, they even show some pretty poor overhang capabilities with PLA in several videos I've seen.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bambu and Prusa both run Marlin. So there is no klipper to be had there. If you insist on klipper, you might want to check out the Qidi Tech Plus 4. It should tick all the boxes you are looking for. And Qidi says they are coming out with their own version of the AMS for the Plus 4 called the Qidi Box sometime this first quarter. Whether they hit that target date or not, I cannot say.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't necessarily insist on klipper, but I would like to have the same functionality with whatever printer I end up with.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

The Bambu printers are quite locked down. So you are only getting the functionality they want you to have. So the Core One, (Marlin) or Qidi, (Mainsail and klipper), might be your best choice. Crealty seems to be improving with their new models. But their past history makes me very leery yet. I lean to Prusa because I've owned one for 5 years now and they still support it. Customer support is valuable to me and worth the extra cost in the purchase price.

[–] amdim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Got a source on the Bambu running marlin?

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

My A1 mini when you look at the printer settings, on the first screen, under g-code flavor, says Marlin(legacy). It's not even Marlin 2. Plus it's locked so you can't even change it something like marlin 2 or klipper.

[–] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I'm going to second the Qidi line. They're fantastic.

[–] amdim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sovol sv08 is a voron-alike that seems to fit your criteria.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah but their build quality really looks like it's absolute shit, running some flimsy looking proprietary hotend.

[–] madnificent@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not CoreXY but you may want to check out FLSun's delta offerings too.

I have an older one and it has served me well. I bought a QQS pro (I think) for tinkering. It worked well out of the box but I could not resist changing the stepper drivers, installing Klipper, changing the hotend, ... It still works well, just faster.

Looking at the few reviews of what they have today I'd buy again but would try not to swap out parts. That or the Prusa you're looking at.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

I would really love the Prusa core one to deliver a product matching their price point, but it just seems to miss the mark by a mile to offer the required functionality and performance to match their price.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe you can flash klipper on the Prusa printers, they even have an official page on how to flash custom firmware and it does not break their warranty.

https://cdn.help.prusa3d.com/article/flashing-custom-firmware-mk4-s-mk3-9-s-mk3-5-s_814967

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

I switched my trusty old Mk3s+ over to klipper a few weeks ago. It was even easy enough to add an accelerometer for input shaping too. While still not as fast as the Bambu mini sitting next to it, I have increased the printing speed to 70mm/s to 90mm/s for quality prints. And I can achieve a bit over 100mm/s print speeds with a small drop in quality.

It will give the old girl more years of useful life.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago

They mention "custom firmware", but I can't find anything online on whether or not their proprietary boards are compatible with klipper, they have no resources on the matter as far as I can tell.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Creality K2 Plus