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[–] Lux18@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Spreading defeatist comments and pessimism, saying that this won't accomplish anything anyway and undermining the power of the collective is exactly what killed this movement in Croatia.

The movement started with a general spending boycott on fridays (so no money transactions - no stores, bars, gas stations, bank transactions etc), and a week long boycott of three supermarket chains that had the most egregious prices compared to other countries (those chains operate all over Europe, and their prices in other countries are far cheaper for the exact same products - despite lower operational costs in Croatia). After that, we switched to boycotting one chain every week.

The boycott was very effective. On the first friday of the boycott, the state financial department reported a 43% decrease in sales volume in the country. Just think about that for a second. And no - there has not been an increase in spending in the days before or after the boycott. In fact, they were still lower compared to the weeks before and the sales volume decreased in the following week by about 10%.

But like I said, unfortunately it died out over the next 4-5 weeks, with each boycott achieving lower decreases. And it died out exactly because of trolls that spread this defeatist attitude thinking they're so smart for seeing the "real" picture. Laughable.
Of course, the astroturfing has been insane, they really went berserk after the first friday. There's been an insane amount of bots posting comments that this doesn't work, that we should be protesting the government instead (as if holding signs in front of government buildings hurts them more than 50% less money flowing into the state piggy bank), that this hurts the citizens more than the conglomerates, that this will cause them to increase the prices to cover the losses etc etc. Just ridiculous claims all over social media.
And yeah, people got deflated and the movement died out.

Thanks idiots.

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[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Amazon blackout, March 7th through March 14th.

I'm personally making that my cut off point for using Amazon at all. And if it wasn't for their return policy I would have stopped quite a while ago.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

It's been an amazon blackout since Bezos was front seat at the inauguration.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For many of us, every day is Amazon blackout day. It really isn't that much of an inconvenience to shop elsewhere. You can do it too! I believe in you!

Also, your returns are likely to end up in a landfill.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

A boycott will be more effective if we laser-focus our efforts:

  1. Focus on Amazon, Tesla (anything Musky), & Meta
  2. Make the boycott permanent

As for me, I’ve done my part. I will never shop Amazon again, or purchase from any online store that uses Amazon for shipping, and all my Meta accounts have been permanently deleted. Done.

Why restrict it to a few days or a week “blackout” or whatever? That’s weak sauce. Everything you can find on Amazon, you can find elsewhere. Stop giving them money.

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Costco has a better return policy and still supports DEI. Though I’m not convinced Costco can replace some of the more niche items I order from Amazon.

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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember that you still buy the same stuff you normally do, you just don't get them from Amazon and bezos. Specialty items can be bought directly from the manufacturer. Give them the full value for their products, don't make them give Amazon a share just because you are too lazy to log into a non Amazon site.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I often do do that. And prefer to order from the manufacturer when possible.

However, there are expensive niche items that are very difficult to find other places and that are prone to damage in shipping due to their bulk, and the other places you can find them have shit return policies or extremely high markups. Because they are manufactured in China, shipped here and then relabeled.

Don't assume other people are lazy because you don't see their point of view.

I used it when I needed it, I got sucked into the convenience and I use it more than I like, I was planning on stopping anyway as my account is about to expire. March 7th gives me a good excuse to do it.

Please be civil, don't tell people they're lazy. I get we're all outraged but let's not target each other.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 190 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The key thing to remember is that a one day blackout won't have an effect on the corporations. What it will do is get more people comfortable with taking action. If you can go one day without buying from Amazon, two days isn't much more, and then a week, and then a month. The idea is to ratchet up the action.

Just like how fascism has a progression to slowly "boil the frog," collective societal action does, too. This isn't an end but a beginning.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Amazon blackout, that's March 7th through March 14th.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

You’re half right. It does affect the corporations but not much. Change is change. Just need to be more proactive about it and keep continuing.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago
[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (6 children)

One day at a time. Isn't that what the 12 Step groups say? People in this thread saying this won't do anything. You have to start somewhere. Don't be defeatist. Get involved. Unless you are just trolling to keep people from doing anything.

[–] anon593839@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

Doomer do-nothings are so incredibly frustrating. I get the frustration, but spreading apathy is not useful. Authoritarianism flourishes when apathy takes root among the populace.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Real doing something is a long term boycott. Not a one day thing. Real doing something is labor organization, unions allow collaboration at a higher level, and allow you to strike back at the throat.

Even protesting at a leftist capital is doing more than a single day's blackout.

Go exercise your second amendment by a conservative senator's house if you really want to do something (and I don't mean that as a shoot them euphemism. Make them uncomfortable.)

[–] witten@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (8 children)

The organization that organized the economic blackout has longer-term boycotts planned in the coming weeks. This is just the opening salvo. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (4 children)

For real. Most Americans have probably never even participated in a “buy nothing” day, much less a pocket book protest against a government.

I don’t see what’s wrong with starting with one day, letting people get used to the concept, then dialing up the frequency once word of mouth has spread.

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[–] ClownsInSpace2@lemm.ee 71 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I just been not buying things most days. Anti-consumerism 2025

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (9 children)

If everyone just holds off buying their shit until March 1st, or buys everything they will need Feb 27, then this blip won't have any effect.

You've got the right idea, if we want to actually hit them where it hurts. I'm doing the same, but not really by choice. I'm just broke.

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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Since Amazon doesn’t actually MAKE anything, just resells stuff, can’t we get a delete and cancel Amazon day too?

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

There is in the making. https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/

This is the start and will keep growing.

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