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People are storming the streets and town halls, Elon is dissolving the whole country and Trump is busy tending Putin's toes. Where the fuck are the democrats in all this crisis? It feels AOC is doing all the heavylifting while all the rest of them smug bunch are just watching with "told ya dis was gunn happen" drawn on their face.

Please tell me my ignorant ass is just blatantly wrong because I ain't getting any news.

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[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Stop looking left and right and start looking up and down. This is a class war! The rest is distraction to divide us.

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

They’ve been doing as much as they can, such as stalling votes and filing lawsuits. They have literally no power, so there isn’t much they can do short of committing violence.

HOWEVER, one thing they could be doing is more attention-grabbing stunts. The octogenarians in party leadership don’t understand that attention is the most valuable commodity these days. If they formed a human shield to block people getting into the Senate chambers to further delay Trump’s nominees, they’d get heaps of attention and far fewer people would be asking what they’re doing to stop the fascist takeover. At least their objections would be visibly plastered all over TV and social media rather than confined to the vote tallies in the Senate.

Down the road, when (or if) Trump needs to have actual legislation passed, he’s going to have a major problem in the House. The House Republican caucus can’t agree on what to order for lunch, so they’ll likely need Democratic votes to get any legislation passed. This is the only area where Dems have a modicum of power.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago
[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not owning a branch of government has never stopped republicans. They would rather get dragged out kicking and screaming. Democratic politicians have largely abandoned their voting base and claim their hands are tied and there's nothing they can do, because they are too used to being able to just skate on through without much experience fighting from a disadvantage.

They can do things like organizing their voter base to fight back in constructive ways and pass local legislation, unify the party on voting for certain politicians, inform their voters about special elections, bills and places they can help out, push a more populist and or progressive agenda, and stop fucking abandoning and lying to their own voter base. They need to be willing to physically lead their constituents

Republicans are so cohesively brainwashed because the republicans have been targeting media and disinformation for decades. They organize extremely well at the local level, and are willing to do almost anything for power.

The democrats need to show equal fervor for defending democracy and they've just been cowards so far, telling people to just vote and tell their family to vote democrats, essentially telling us, "we cant do anything so its your problem and responsibility now"

ETA: democrats had 4 years to plan and time to come up with a response to Project 2025. Its weird to me everyone just took "oh its not trumps plan" at face value.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. Dont look to the Democrats to help. Look at progressive parties and independents on the left.

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 5 points 6 days ago

The "reasonable" moderate Democrats are hoping to win votes with: "We'll undo a few Republican initiatives and put our friends in offices, but otherwise keep everything the same." Can't imagine why that isn't getting them votes. In 2024 they ran out of Republican initiatives to undo and their platform was just: keep our friends in office and keep everything else the same. If they had other planned initiatives, few people picked up on them.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Plenty have been directly pressuring Republican congresspeople by rallying in their district like Sanders did this last week.

Direct legislative action is difficult without control, but in terms of effective messaging and pressuring Republicans by threatening the midterms is probably one of the more effective strategies they have.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 6 days ago

Bernie is an independent who ran as a dem only for them to kneecap his campaign.

[–] Lightening@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Direct legislative action is difficult without control

lol no it's not. You create a bill called "Keep America a Democracy" or "Defending America from Russia" and then when the Republicans all vote "No" you have the best political weapon you could possibly get.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That's called politicking, which they absolutely should be doing.

You're indirectly getting laws through by twisting arms and making deals instead of just having a majority.

[–] FunkFakin420@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Isn't the better question, what can they do? I'm not saying Democrats aren't without fault in all of this, but now that the US has jumped the democracy shark, I'm not sure there's much anyone can do to put this shitty little genie back in the bottle. Short of House and Senate republicans having a coming to Jesus moment, I think we're all on board the autocracy train for the duration.

[–] alcoholic_chipmunk@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I don't think it's unreasonable to demand from your politicians to do something. The onus definitely isn't on us to have a 10 point plan on stopping authoritarianism. And they should definitely be able to do more than just finger wagging.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

How about try? Maybe even get off the couch? Oh, what if they came out and actually didn't help Trump get his picks approved?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Republicans always manage to gum up the works, yet Democrats can't seem to bring themselves to even try.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Almost like they know their donators loves Trump's tax cuts and his policies... ~~And why Biden didn't undo any of the major ones~~

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nothing of consequence, nobody is.

Yeah, here and there some may say that ooohh, trump bad!

He just beheaded the military which is literally the pre-last step needed. All he needs to do now is put trump loyalists in those positions, have them purge the rest of the top to ensure all are pro trump and them what's going to stop him?

AOC? She'll mysteriously disappear, next question.

Who is going to stop these fuckwads?

Next up, Canada will become the 51st state. Don't wanna? Nuke Vancouver, who is going to stop him? What, Europe? They can get a few nukes too if they don't like it, he has enough.

Next up, Panama becomes a US state. Don't like it? See a pattern?

Next up, Greenland, and so on.

NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING. The US is always ALWAYS boasting about self sacrifice and the one hero who saves all, or maybe a group that bands together and goes against all odds and die in the process and and and... Nothing. So far the biggest actions I've seen were people resigning in protest, making even easier for trump WTF.

Ooohh, ther ehave been protests! Some cities had dozens of people, some even had hundreds!! Whooooo, Cheeto must be shitting bricks now!!

Nobody has done anything.

These are people whondobt care about laws

These are people that don't care about consequences, nor do they have the ability to think about consequences

These are people who don't care if you, or millions like you will die. Fuck you, die already, give us what we want.

In part, these are people who are working diligently to bring about the apocalypse so that jeebus christ will return or some delusional shit like that, and now they have access to nukes. Great going assholes (yes, if you're American, that means you) YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO FUCKING STOP ANY OF THIS.

Oh, what? You think that you did your job by voting? Well that sure wasn't enough. These fuckers will fuck the world, when is someone going to do something to actually stop all of this shit?

Honestly, I don't think anyone can do anything anymore anyway. Something could have been done by Biden. He had the extraordinary presidential powers, he could have simply stopped trump by pulling a trump. He refused, needed to do "the right thing" and fuck the world over in the process. Well done, asshole, hope you feel good about yourself.

I think we're all fucked. I used to worry about climate change as I have a reasonable understanding of what it takes to stop it, let alone start to reverse it. It will take a huge effort and sacrifice from everyone in the world and we've done shit all and don't care. Don't worry if you live through trump (there is a good non zero chance that you won't), climate change will end you.

Now I'm just worried about the world being destroyed beyond repair by trump already because again, nobody cares to actually stop all of them.

I'm kind of in the zone where I kust let it happen , once they come for me, I'll be happy with my wife, we had an awesome run together, when we die, we will be happy in eachothers arms.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago

Luigi did something. We need more Luigis, but I fear we will get peasant-brain brown shirts instead

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You have to win elections to do stuff.

Compared to the Republicans literally blocking anything passing the Senate with a minority.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I was actually thinking about this. What if Trump is just a Martin shkreli

Hear me out. The board of directors for pharma used Martin as a Patsy to do something illegal. Martin takes the heat while the board reaps the benefits and they throw Martin to the Sharks.

What if this whole thing was all an act and they're all using trump as a power grab. He's tearing it all down and it benefits all of them, Democrat and Republican. When trump leaves, there will be so much power given to the owner class in the country while regulation and oversight is not what it was.

[–] payhn@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is essentially what trump is doing with musk. He's going to"fire" musk as soon as he's done enough damage then go back to claiming he's making America great by rehiring people to replace the ones musk is firing. Only the replacements won't be as competent then leave the crippled departments to the Dems and republicans will say "look at how poorly the Dems are running the place"

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

I think it's the other way around. Rich people like Musk helped trump reach the white house. Now they're making him do their bidding. Trump isn't the master like his base thinks. He's a puppet for the rich.

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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I highly recommend Leeja Miller to understand what needs to be done and how much of that the Democrats are doing currently

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