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I've been using Linux exclusively for about 8 years. Recently I got frustrated with a bunch of issues that popped one after another. I had a spare SSD so I decided to check out Windows again. I've installed Windows 11 LTSC. It was a nightmare. After all the years on Linux, I forgot how terrible Windows actually is.

On the day I installed the system and a bunch of basic software, I had two bluescreens. I wasn't even doing anything at that time, just going through basic settings and software installation. Okay, it happens. So I installed Steam and tried to play a game I've been currently playing on Linux just to see the performance difference. And it was... worse, for some reason. The "autodetect" in game changed my settings from Ultra to High. On Linux, the game was running at the 75 fps cap all the time. Windows kept dropping them to around 67-ish a lot of times. But the weirdest part was actual power consumption and the way GPU worked. Both systems kept the GPU temperature at around 50C. But the fans were running at 100% speed at that temperature on Windows, while Linux kept them pretty quiet. I had to change the fan controls by myself on Windows just because it was so annoying. The power consumption difference was even harder to explain, as I was getting 190-210W under Linux and under Windows I got 220-250W. And mind you, under Linux I had not only higher graphical settings set up, but was also getting better performance.

I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don't even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

Today I decided to make this rant-post after yet another game crashed on me twice under Windows. I bought Watch Dogs since it's currently really cheap on Steam. I click play. I get the loading screen. The game crashed. I try again. I play through the basic "tutorial". After going out of the building, game crashed again. I'm going to play again, this time under Linux.

I've had my share of frustrations under Linux, but that experience made me realise that Windows is not a perfect solution either. Spending a lot of time with Linux and it's bugs made me forget all the bad experience in the past with Windows, and I was craving to go back to the "just works" solution. But it's not "just works". Two days was all it took for me to realize that I'll actually stick with Linux, probably forever. The spare SSD went back to my drawer, maybe so I can try something new in the future. It's so good to be back after a short trip to the other side!

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What Linux distro are you using share Bluetooth and audio “just works”?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Probably the DE more than the distro, for me Bluetooth has "just worked" under KDE

[–] mr2meows@pawb.social 3 points 3 hours ago

fresh install of windows 10 i have to turn my monitor on and off twice to get anything to display on my screens

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

Welcome back to sanity

[–] Akito@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Using Windows since Windows XP was sired. Using Linux for longer than that, mostly Linux servers, but have tons of years of Linux Desktop experience under my belt, with probably half of all Linux distributions on DistroWatch.com.

Conclusion: Linux server rocks. Windows Desktop sux in many ways, but it just works and I personally have no issues with it. Linux Desktop is the worst hell possible. Barely ever works. It is literal hell and I hate it.

Whenever I try to get into Linux Desktop, I have to meditate and drink a de-stressing tea beforehand, or else I cannot guarantee the laptop's or PC's screen's safety, when dealing with Linux Desktop.

For anyone attempting to comment: note, that there is a huge difference between headless server Linux usage and Linux Desktop/GUI usage. I'm only talking about Linux GUI. Linux headless is fine and works great!

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 11 minutes ago

But did you try (the distro I personally prefer)? I've tried 500 distros and that one is the one that actually worked for me.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'd summarize the current OS situation as

Windows Just Works until it doesn't, at which point there's basically nothing you can do about it and you just have to kick it until something clicks into place and it starts working properly again.

Whereas linux Just Works to a slightly smaller degree, but when it stops Just Working it does so in granular steps most of the time, and every part of the ecosystem tries to help you fix things when they break.

Windows is a resin-potted black box that takes input and does stuff, if it breaks you're supposed to just chuck it and buy a new one.
Linux is a slightly bulkier thing that you can just unscrew and replace a capacitor when it breaks.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Only if you refuse to put forth the same effort into fixing windows as you do with Linux. Not wanting to learn doesn't mean it's not learnable.

[–] Akito@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Have a different experience. Usually, Linux does not even boot, due to driver issues, in the first place. So, the first installation process usually easily takes 5 to 10 hours, straight. And this is only for common popular distributions, not to mention lesser known and lesser supported ones. (Talking about Linux GUI based installations, only.)

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

yeah no i'm sorry but this just sounds completely fucking made up

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 2 minutes ago

Oh I just did that

[–] Akito@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

What do you need as proof? All I have to do, is getting a random laptop, doesn't matter which one and I will make a video for you. Is that enough?

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Over the past 5 years, I've installed ubuntu about 30 times on different computers. Not once has an install on an SSD taken me more than an hour, with it typically taking me 30 minutes or less except for rare occasions where I've messed something up.

[–] Akito@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

It's not about the speed of the installation.... It's about the installation not working. Crashes. Hard to see error logs. Drivers missing for the most generic hardware, ever. No, I'm not talking about an unmaintained fringe distribution. I'm talking about Ubuntu, Lubuntu & Debian. Plain old stable and simple.

[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I almost never had Linux not boot after a fresh install, even with nVidia hardware. It happened a few times like 10 years ago and never again. What hardware are you running?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 1 minute ago

If you're willing to put up with the low security options provided by default and don't have a weird laptop, maybe.

[–] Akito@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Happened to me all the time, when, for example, setting up very generic and common laptops for family & friends. It never worked out of the box. Every single time, I had to give special treatment. Research extra drivers, etc... Hard to do in some locations, when they do not have a second system to do all the work from.

[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Laptops have historically been a little iffy yeah. Personally I haven't had many issues except for Nvidia optimus, but since most of them are non standard and proprietary it used to be kind of a pain. Now though it's much better, at least on newer hardware, even my newest laptop with hybrid graphics just worked out of the box.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 59 seconds ago

Lol "the main computer market is iffy"

[–] Akito@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Tried it over many years. Last one was last year. Every time, the same problem. I even considered moving to Windows, but it would be tougher for me to administrate for me, as I'm used to headless Linux. It's just, whenever Linux tries to GUI, it fucks up everything colossaly.

[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I just don't see it. I run it on all my PCs with nvidia, amd, hybrid graphics, pretty much any combination (I have too many 😅). It works. Even various friends of mine have tried it on their older setups, no problems there either.

Unless you're using something like Debian or whatever with crazy old packages, everything works for the most part. Nvidia is still not great on Wayland but it at least works now.

I'm not saying your experience isn't valid, I'm not trying to gaslight you, but I'm not sure it's representative of the average experience nowadays.

[–] Akito@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

What PCs? Certified by some Linux supporting company? If you buy a random laptop or pre-made PC, chances are high, that it won't work. And I'm not even a "beginner", who does "beginner" mistakes. No, I'm actually a Linux pro. I work with Linux literally every single day, even in my free time.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I think it highly depends on what kind of hardware you are attempting to install Linux on. You can make it work on almost anything, but the graphical installers are best used with hardware that was widely used when the distribution was released.

Also the older and more obscure distros may not have installers that pass secure boot checks, which is very frustrating if you don't know what is happening.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I can’t relate to this at all.

We use windows machines as software developers at work and really have no issues at all. Never had a bluescreen in these two years.

I use windows at home to play Factorio, Minecraft, and RDR2. Again, never had an issue. No blue screens. I turn it on open steam and play my games then turn it off when done.

I tried Linux again cause I got sucked in by this echo chamber and that did not go well at all. I explicitly said I don’t want to have to be a nerd in my free time to manage Linux which I was assured isn’t the case. Then one day I turn it on and have no sound and no idea why it just died. I swiftly removed Linux and went back to windows.

I do use Linux for servers for Jellyfin and stuff and I like it for those things, but me personally have had a better experience using windows and I can’t understand all these people against it.

[–] LaMouette@jlai.lu 3 points 3 hours ago

Was windows dev for 10 years, I switched to Linux for work and I'm never going back : everything is simpler (may not be easier though) and makes sense whereas you constantly work against the system in windows. It's an opinion so widespread they even made a subsystem to use Linux tools on windows. As a user windows installation is an utter nightmare, getting rid of the thousands stuff you don't want is horrible. And also you may not even be able to install it without special ssd drivers that you have to side load manually (for some pretty basic asus hardware) Also don't get me started on the nearly mandatory microsoft account 🤢

[–] DreasNil@feddit.nu 2 points 7 hours ago

I just installed Linux Mint yesterday. Can’t wait to get home to continue playing around with it. I like it so far!

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