When Discord enshittifies to the point it shows ads in chat, Instagram will be ready to swoop in and capture the market with the same shitty ads.
this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2025
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I'd wager another better alternative will come up that'll be like Discord, get great traction, then go public, then enshitify. The cycle of crap software continues until a FOSS option appears.
Trying to get my friends to try anything other than the entrenched option is the issue I have.
Haven't tried it but Revolt is the FOSS alternate for discord right?
...Revolt is the FOSS alternate for discord right?
Yes, or for a more limited feature set, Matrix.
I was about to suggest that as well.
Yes it's pretty great except
- File size limits on the default instance are 20mb.
- Its not federated.
- It's not encrypted.
- File size limits on the default instance are 20mb.
But it's configurable right? Should be looking through configurations anyway.
- Its not federated.
I'd argue that not everything needs to be federated. Some things would definitely benefit from federation, but I'm not entirely sure that this is one of them.
- It's not encrypted.
This IS a bit of a major negative. But point 2 and point 3 seems to be in conflict. I'm definitely not an expert, and don't pretend to be. But to my limited, layman's, knowledge wouldn't being federated and encrypted not really work out? What would be the point in encrypting all communication between the server instance and client, to then federate it out to other servers?
I'm not trying to be contrarian here, I'm really asking, is that something that would:
- Work.
- Makes sense to do
Or is the lack of encryption a security risk for server operators? I'm not getting the point, obviously. And I'd like to know what your thinking on this is.
My intention was not to hate on it, I think it's a great project, but just to make people aware of considerations.
But it's configurable right?
On your self-hosted instance? Sure. On the default instance? No.
I'd argue that not everything needs to be federated.
I agree, but it is nice to have.
wouldn't being federated and encrypted not really work out?
No, lots of platforms that are both.
What would be the point in encrypting all communication between the server instance and client, to then federate it out to other servers?
So you could communicate with people on other servers securely?
Sorry, I should have been clear, I by no means thought you were hating on it!
I'm literally just hearing about Revolt now. And I've had a bad day so far, that obviously came through in my previous comment. I'm sorry, rereading my last comment, it's a bit belligerent.
Thanks for taking the time to explain like I'm 5 and throwing a tantrum. 🤦 Sorry again.
No worries.
The comparison with Discord makes non sense, the feature seems to be just a normal group chat, like the ones in Telegram/Whatsapp/iMessage. Discord's killer feature is the ability to have multiple channels within a server, which allows more organization.