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Agreed, Bosnian and Croatian food are the only proper food :3

[–] Kundas@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

As someone who's lived Italy, this does sound like something an Italian would say lmao

[–] SheenSquelcher@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

According to this map I should probably be dead.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Tbh I find Italian culinary traditions underwhelming. Like they just gave up 10 minutes in, no work at all because it's too hot.

To be fair, the further from coastline, the better the Italian cuisine - more herbs, more variety, more complex recipes (e.g Ligurian braised rabbit)

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I saw a really good documentary recently, hell if I can remember the name. It covered actual Italian historical dishes. They were explaining that most of the really old stuff was region specific. Like one dish in one area had nothing to do with the same dish in another area. They actually went through kind of a food reimagining or Renaissance after one of the wars. Basically they were saying that pizza as it is now is not that old. Prior to the rush into America they had flatbreads that kind of but didn't really approximate pizza, and it wasn't until the Italian Americans repatriated that they started honing what they consider they current concept of pizza.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago

The concept of nations as well as their culture and cuisine are relatively young. Medieval cuisine was both highly local and also quite similar across a shared biome.

Italians have a couple of great hits and a lot of duds.

[–] Lininop@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

This tracks, every Italian I've ever met has been a complete snob about food.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm Dutch and I think this map is completely unfair. It overrates our food significantly

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The Dutch chartered an enormous company to trade spices, but never used them.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago

That's just common knowledge, dealers never dip into their own product.

[–] zer0nix@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago

I'm a little disappointed that the center is a knife and fork instead of a hand pinching fingers together to make a point

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 11 hours ago

u wot m8?

We've got Greggs Sausage Rolls.

All you've got is pasta and tomato sauce for every meal, and think different shaped pasta makes it a different dish!

That's like thinking beans on toast is different if you put it on different shaped bread.

[–] alxmg@slrpnk.net 3 points 12 hours ago

I second this map.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I feel like France, Greece, and Spain are gonna have some pretty strong objections.

RIP Portugal

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You know what's strange. I can buy French cuisine, Mexican cuisine, Canadian cuisine, I can even find elements of UK in Germany

I'm not even aware that Spain has a cuisine. I just looked up the entry on Wikipedia and I've never seen any of those dishes really.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Chorizo, tapas, and paella are all pretty popular and well known.

I should have included Greece on that list, it's food is more well know in North America.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I assumed chorizo was Mexican, I've actually made that before.

I've had paella but it was on a cruise ship in the Caribbean.

I've heard of tapas but I've never actually seen it.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm not really an expert.
Tapas are like dim sum, a category of sharable appetizers, rather than a specific dish

[–] paraffine@jlai.lu 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not from someone from the South-East of France.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Cannes and Nice are apparently the only places in France with real food 🤣

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

Food in Portugal is delicious

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wholeheartedly support culinarily disrespecting Italians, honestly.

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions when their precious dishes are invented in like the 60s

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions

Ancient traditions

Look inside

Post Columbian exchange vegetables

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I knew an Italian exchange student that kept whining that nothing tasted good and nothing tasted as it should up here in Scandinavia. Then another exchange student (from Thailand I think) got tired of him and told him ~"the rest of the world isn't your mother" and it was a literal moment of realisation for this dude.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

Wow, a rare good tasteful Your Mom remark

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

the rest of the world isn't your mother

Nah but it's way closer than it should be

Zing!

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

I'm just under the line of "toxic" in Finland and you could drawn the line a bit further south.

Finnish national dish? Traditional version? Here you go, the entire recipe;

Pound of beef, cubed

Pounds of pork, cubed

Water

A spoonful of salt.

Put meat in pan with water.

Take pan off heat after enough time.

Done.

That's literally the Finnish national dish "Karelian stew". Obviously nowadays it definitely includes black pepper as well and bunch of other things, because the traditional version is literally just a bunch of boiled meat without any spices.

edit haha enjoyed that but yes, the formatting was off, although you could obviously used water cubes in a pan as long as you still put it on hot. Actually, it might be an interesting experiment to put a pot on a hot stove / flame with beef & pork & ice. Insofar that maybe a tiny bit of the meat would brown before the ice melts and becomes water idk. At least then there'd be browning resulting in some taste. The classical one has none.

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