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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

People who support this aren't American anyway. Real Americans believe in human rights

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Have you read black history in the US? :)

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or read about native Americans? I say read because they are almost extinct

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Or, like, any pre-2008 American history lmao

Recognizing human rights was an anomaly over the last few years, not the norm

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You're not wrong, but I also don't think the US is unique in that regard. There's been a lot of bullshit going on, even in countries that you would never imagine things like that happening in.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In most decent states there's been a ton of progress. I never claimed we were always perfect. No country has been.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

No I know. I would say all countries are pretty fucked up actually. Because human leaders are greedy and awful human beings in most cases.

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

You say "decent states" as if you think rural east Oregon is better than Atlanta in that regard, just because Oregon is blue and Georgia is red.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US were built on genocide and fueled by slavery.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most countries were. You can't work backwards. You have to work forward towards the future

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The sad thing is that Mango Mussolini would be stupid enough to actually pass something like that.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who upvotes this no true Scotsman bullshit?

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm sorry, but when you actively support bullshit laws like this that dehumanize people, you don't get to call yourself an American. Simple as that

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

To be clear, I am not defending them. I am just pointing out bad logic because it leads to bad beliefs and opinions.

Unfortunately, these people are Americans, and there's a whole bunch of them. There is no value whatsoever in trying to argue otherwise.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

All I'm trying to say is that fascism is decidedly un-American

Unfortunately that seems to be changing. It's almost as if this country learned nothing 80 years ago

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i know you've probably been always taught differently, but this is objectively untrue. this country was literally built on genocide and slavery, it was steeped in misogyny and racism.

America has always been this.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That'd make sense. This country operates off indoctrination after all.

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[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

(replied to wrong comment)

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