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Russia and China at war with Canada, says Gen. Wayne Eyre (ottawacitizen.com)

submitted 2 years ago by NightOwl@lemm.ee to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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The employment concept document hammering home the threat to Canada from China and Russia comes as the military leadership and its supporters advocate for billions more dollars in defence spending.

But pumping more money into the military comes at a time when the Liberal government is pushing fiscal restraint on federal departments. In addition, the Canadian Forces and National Defence have faced questions about how they manage the money they already receive as well as concerns about equipment projects that have gone tens of billions of dollars over budget without providing additional military capability.

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[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago

Holy clickbait headline, batman.

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

We must remember that Russia and China do not differentiate between peace and war

The hostile intentions and actions of our adversaries show that they consider themselves to be at war with the West

I don’t think that words have consistent meanings coming from this guy. If their adversaries (China) show that they consider themselves to be at war, then they also consider themselves to be at peace?

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

We must remember that Russia and China do not differentiate between peace and war

[citation needed]

The hostile intentions and actions of our adversaries show that they consider themselves to be at war with the West

As opposed to the oh-so-friendly rhetoric getting slung from the USA and Canada right now.

A bunch of churlish hypocrites, the lot of them.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

ITT: Lemmy infected with fear mongering Winnie the Pooh fans

[+] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca -6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How about instead of antagonizing foreign nations on the other side the globe with the few military resources we have ... we just keep things at home and don't start fights where we aren't supposed to be.

When it comes to China ... if we are at war with them ... why the hell is our economy hinged on Chinese trade worth billions with them?

I always love this argument -> China is evil but we don't mind doing billions of dollars worth of business with them.

Stop beating the drums of war ... if you want to spend millions on something ... spend millions on peace ... the more money you spend on war, the more likely you'll get a war.

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

spend millions on peace

How do you do this? How could e.g. Ukraine had spend money to not get invaded by a foreign Military and stay at peace? Are you high?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

By signing the peace deal back in 2022 that would have even kept Donbass in Ukraine (as an autonomous region, sure, but it's damn well better than the current conflict borders).

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The US dumped billions into Ukraine before, during and after this war ... the only goal seems to be - > more war.

If the west, especially the US had not invested so heavily in Ukraine, do you think there would be a protracted war right now?

Everyone is so preoccupied with what the war is now, but no one ever asks how, why and where the war originated ... or even why it is continuing. And its not as simple as saying that Russia has expansionist goals and wants to rule the world. If any country is guilty of that, I only know of one country in the world that has directly or indirectly affected the statehood of many, many nations over the past 80 years.

I'm with every detractor out there including you ... I don't have any love for authoritarian Russia and I don't agree with one country invading or occupying another.

But I do keep a wide eye on global politics to know that, most if not all wars are preventable and wars that are in motion can be stopped if the participants and supporters of any side are willing. And war only continues if both sides are willing to invest it with money .... lots and lots of money ... which Ukraine has none right now.

So my question stands ... does the world want to keep investing in perpetual war ... or is anyone willing to spend a penny on peace?

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's no money to be made in peace. Well, not as easily, I mean. To make money in peace takes actual talent and ability to create.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which is what I am afraid of .... no one is thinking or considering the future ... no cares about resolution, or the long term ... all anyone wants to talk about is war ... especially if it means funding a war where other nations are dying in ... this isn't about anything except feeding an insatiable war machine

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The hobby of the west has for centuries been killing brown folk abroad. Why do we expect different now?

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

If the west, especially the US had not invested so heavily in Ukraine, do you think there would be a protracted war right now?

Probably not, Ukraine just wouldn't exist anymore. How is that better?

If any country is guilty of that, I only know of one country in the world

There are a few countries like that, actually. There used to be other ones, too. The fact that one does it does not excuse the other. And no, it's not okay that one does it "because they're the good guys" either (altough I don't think many people outside that country think they're the good guys, really, I certainly don't).