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[–] Reverendender@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@fne8w2ah "Two of the central players of the operation, Roy M. Cox and Aaron Michael Jones, were under lifetime bans against making telemarketing calls following lawsuits by the Federal Trade Commission and State of Texas."

WHY AREN’T THEY IN JAIL

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How much money were they making off telemarketing that they were fucking banned for life from doing it and they still did it?

Also:

At the time, the FTC said that Cox was issued "a $1.1 million civil penalty that will be suspended due to his inability to pay.

Oh ok, so this fine for more money will certainly mean something...

[–] gullible@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I feel like we have places to put people who ruin society. Was it mail, rail, shale? I dunno, set them free and bring me a coffee, bailiff.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago

WHY ARE THEY STILL BREATHING?

[–] Sensitivezombie@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Ban all robocalls, legal or illegal. If any business that needs to reach can leave a voicemail. I'll decide then which should be deleted and which required a call back.

[–] tehcpengsiudai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

$300M feels like "Ahh we caught you now, bad boys, don't let me catch you again. Now go have your lunch."

These people should be punished harsher for all the lives they've destroyed intentionally.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Not gonna help. Not accepting calls from unknown numbers and/or automated filtering is the only way forward, the model of being able to just call anyone is broken.

[–] Pergle@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Shred all robo caller companies and give the owners jail time.

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good to see the FCC going after this kind of thing. Put them in jail even better.

I have my phone set up so the only numbers that chime the phone are those in my contact list. The abuse of voice and text on the cell network is rampant and it's equivalent to trespassing.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"An international network of companies violated federal statutes and the Commission's regulations when they executed a scheme to make more than five billion robocalls to more than 500 million phone numbers during a three-month span in 2021, including violating federal spoofing laws by using more than one million different caller ID numbers in an attempt to disguise the true origin of the robocalls and trick victims into answering the phone," the FCC said.

"Since at least 2018, this enterprise operated a complex scheme designed to facilitate the sale of vehicle service contracts under the false and misleading claim of selling auto warranties," the FCC said.

"Two of the central players of the operation, Roy M. Cox and Aaron Michael Jones, were under lifetime bans against making telemarketing calls following lawsuits by the Federal Trade Commission and State of Texas."

The FCC said it took action to block the robocalling scheme last year by directing "all US-based voice service providers to cease carrying traffic associated with certain members of the enterprise.

The FCC coordinated last year's action with the Ohio attorney general's office, which filed a lawsuit against Jones, Cox, and others involved in the alleged robocalling scheme.

Cox was banned from telemarketing in a 2013 settlement with the FTC, which accused him of sending "illegal robocalls offering credit card interest rate reduction programs, extended automobile warranties, and home security systems."


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[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good! Large fines create a meaningful deterrent for bad behavior.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cox was banned from telemarketing in a 2013 settlement with the FTC, which accused him of sending "illegal robocalls offering credit card interest rate reduction programs, extended automobile warranties, and home security systems." At the time, the FTC said that Cox was issued "a $1.1 million civil penalty that will be suspended due to his inability to pay."

In 2017, the FTC obtained a similar telemarketing ban on Jones. He was also fined $2.7 million, but, as with Cox, the fine was "suspended based on his inability to pay."

No fine is going to be paid this time either I imagine.

[–] st3ph3n@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not normally a proponent of prison for debtors, but in the case of these motherfuckers I'd be happy if they threw away the key.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Depends on if they make so much money that 300M is just cost of doing business. There needs to be prison time for those involved.

Also $300M is the public fine number. Usually the actual fine is less than what is made public.