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Hi,

I need a tablet for (1) making handwritten notes to replace too many moleskines and to create a digital record of them (2) to read academic papers and annotate them.

I need to decide between Remarkable2 and iPAD Air + apple pencil. Any thoughts appreciated.

I have the impression that remarkable2 will be the best writing experience, however - an Ipad will connect direcly with Zotero. I am happy to download papers from zotero and upload them back to zotero, but realise that i will not be able to output all highlights in zotero from papers annotated in remarkable.

I have a macbook so am focused on the tasks highlighted above.

many thanks

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[–] XiminiCricket@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey, have you considered the supernote A5x ? It is a great device to annotate and you have more options when it comes to import/export. I have both, remarkable is great to mimick a blank page but to organize knowledge and reading, supernote feels better to me.

Especially because you can automatically search your handwriting as it recognizes it in the background. Eye strain is an important factor, so you’re really right considering a eink machine !

[–] claralollipop@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I had to choose between supernote and rM. Chose rM cause supernote, the device and the interface, looks too unpleasent to me and I couldn't imagine looking at it every day.

[–] XiminiCricket@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I felt the same way, until I discovered It was not easy to carry the remarkable everywhere for (partly irrational) fear of breaking it. The supernote is all plastic, it was definitely a plus.

In the hands the supernote definitely has a charm, it doesn't feel like a random tablet either.

[–] Cavolatan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Boox sells e ink devices that can access the internet, use Android apps (is Zotero on Android?), have front lights, and have excellent PDF reading software. Remarkable’s tactile writing experience is a skootch better, but it’s not a great reader and it doesn’t have a ton of internet access — more of a digital notebook.

[–] Specific-Freedom2236@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Good points here. Remarkable will likely be too limiting

[–] Snizoo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I would maybe look into the Boox note air 3c, it’s running on android so downloading pdfs would be easier. I personally find downloading class notes and lack of colour an irritation point.

[–] FBradley64@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hi,

So I switched from an iPad + pen to a reMarkable 1 some years ago and have never thought of going back. I use my remarkable on a daily basis for taking meeting notes, markup of design papers and other documents.

On my Mac's (MBP and MAc Pro desktop) I am able to send documents to my reMarkable via the RMAPI interface or the reMarkable app without any issues and if I have a document or web page that I want on my reMarkable I just print the item. The rmapi will allow you to create a printer that will permit you to print to your reMarkable.

[–] ImpressiveComposer35@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Didn't know about the printer function. That's actually really, really handy to know. Appreciate it bro

[–] Dundermifflinforeman@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Cool feature. Didn’t know this. I can also connect my iPad to my WiFi printer

[–] wonderlandisnotreal@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't recommend the iPad for writing, it feels horrible bc of the slippery glass and I also didn't like the feel of the Apple Pencil 2, using it for a longer time made my hand hurt.

I have a Remarkable 2 but will switch to Boox Note Air 3C soon bc the Boox has colour and a frontlight and runs on Android. However, writing on the Remarkable feels amazing and I only have to charge it once every two weeks. So if you don't need a colour screen or frontlight and are happy with a device that's only for taking notes and nothing else, the Remarkable definitely seems like a good choice.

[–] Admirable-Treacle-19@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't recommend ipad. Look at onyx boox as well, then decide.

[–] Formal-Intention4132@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Don't know anything about Zotero but if you can print to PDF on your computer, you can read and annotate it on the rM2. There are also browser extensions available that might help.

I've never written on an iPad but I have on a Surface tablet and I would recommend the rM2 easily over that experience. That was with a $100 Microsoft Pen too... The rM2 actually lives up to its promise of feeling like paper. It's not just the textured screen, it's that plus the response time and intelligent design.

I opted out of the competitors because I wanted a device that I wouldn't have to think about. I wanted a device I could set next to my laptop for 8-10 hours per day and just be ready for me to jot down, take notes, sketch a chart, etc., etc. and be able to easily recall those notes at any time. I got what I needed to the letter, and it works great for all that and so much more I won't go into as this is getting long already. I highly recommend if you are serious about wanting a good writing focus tool.

[–] Ny3Wulf@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I will +1 the other posts suggesting the ONYX BOOX. I had a rM2 and now have a Boox Tab Ultra (as well as a Mac and iPad pro). I posted an extensive review in this group between the Boox and the rM a few months back (probably searchable).

For just notetaking the rM would work for you 100%; but your mention of ereader needs and Zotero puts your use case closer to mine. I don't use Zotero, and don't see an Android client app for it (yet), but can say that ereading/markup on the Boox tab ultra is better for me than when I had the rM.

[–] Backwardhead@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I love my R2. I've had problems printing PDFs with my markups in the past but these issues have since been resolved. I also spring for the cloud service. I use it daily so figure it's worth the $8 a month. My thinking is BETTER with the R2. Writing long hand is different than typing and if you are needing to think better the R2 is the way to go.