And yet some want to hear meta out before deciding whether to federate or defederate from them.
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I'm not sure what defederating from them solves in regards to this topic. If they wanted Lemmy, Kbin, & Mastodon's data, they could always just set up another instance with a different domain name and not publicly announce what that domain name is, and we would have no idea who to defederate from. Or they could just scrape the data from the web page, no federation needed.
I don't want to see their content, which is a valid reason to defederate (or block, if that were possible at the user level) imo. But defederating because we want to stop them from getting our data is not even slightly effective, so I think it makes an unconvincing argument.
You know how people keep talking about the Nazi Bar? Now say, you've been keeping your bar Nazi free for a while, and then, a massive venue opens up across the street that is way more inclined to cater to Nazis because they're huge and don't dedicate the resources in dealing with them. They reach out to all the bars in the area to and want to partner up by offering venue attendees one free drink at your bar. You can take that offer, and your volume of bar patrons goes way up even on slow days, but it will ruin the vibe for your regulars and you'll have to accept that it'll be a lot harder to keep Nazis out of your bar.