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What's your Patient Gamer's Unpopular Opinion? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by limeaide@lemmy.ml to c/patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

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Share your unfiltered, unpopular gaming opinions and let's dive into some real discussions. If you come across a view you disagree with, feel free to (respectfully) defend your perspective. I don't want to see anyone say stuff like "we're all entitled to our own opinions." Let's pretend like gaming is a science and we are all award winning scientists.

My Unpopular Opinion:

I believe the criticism against battle royales is often unwarranted. Most complaints revolve around constant content updates, microtransactions, and toxic player communities

Many criticize the frequent content updates, often cosmetic, as overwhelming. However, it's optional, and no other industry receives flak for releasing more. I've never seen anyone complain about too many Lays or coke flavors.

Pay-to-win concerns are mostly outdated; microtransactions are often for cosmetics. If you don't have the self control to not buy a purple glittery gun, then I'm glad you don't play the games anymore, but I don't think it makes the game bad.

The annoying player bases is the one I understand the most. I don't really have a point against this except that it's better to play with friends.

Overall I think battle royale games are pretty fun and rewarding. Some of my favorite gaming memories were playing stuff like apex legends late at night with friends or even playing minecraft hunger games with my cousins like 10 years ago. A long time ago I heard in a news segment that toy companies found out that people are willing to invest a lot of time and energy into winning ,if they know there will be a big reward at the end, and battle royales tap into that side of my brain.

This is just my opinion

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Very specific but Assassins Creed: Revelations is the best game of the series (I've only played through Unity). It came just before the games' mythos got too convoluted and took itself too seriously. The combat and parkour is smooth and Constantinople is a beautiful world to explore.

Also, Homefront: The Revolution is a fun lite-stealth FPS that has held up very well for the amount of hate it got on release.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Homefront: The Revolution

I got that game cheap and enjoyed it for what it was. I think if I had paid full price my experience would have been quite different. It seemed well put together though, a tighter experience than some of the Farcry games and Ghost Recon Wildlands.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Home front The Revolution luckily does have a good level of cult respect on YouTube nowadays, so I don't think that's an unpopular opinion these days, it's just a cult one. I really enjoyed that game as well! Good to hear some more respect for it.

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[–] Gadg8eer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

NFT games and using cryptocurrency in games could - hypothetically - have their place, but "investing" in crypto as a way of making money (instead of as a way to take control of money back from central banks) is never going to let that happen. They are a dead end feature solely due to human greed, not due to a flaw in integrating games with a wider decentralized network.
Star Citizen is not and never was a scam. It took 10 years, but that video of the seamless transitions from space to atmosphere to landing zone to city and back is about an already available feature, only the better graphics and a couple map updates shown in the video are unimplemented.
The people who hate on Star Citizen should hate on games like Decentraland and Star Atlas, which take the early access model and abuse it. You should especially hate Star Atlas, which actually is everything bad you've heard about Star Citizen but with worthlessly unimplemented NFTs for the "pixel starships". Also note that Star Atlas ships appear to be weird amalgamations of Star Citizen ship designs, but the (stated) Star Atlas ship role counterparts cost 3x the original price of backing Star Citizen the moment the site for Star Atlas was up.
Regardless of all the above, its my money that I spent on Star Citizen. I'm getting really f-ing tired of being judged for that, especially because I am in a position where I can live in relative comfort but do NOT have the money, neurophysical ability, or social influence to actually improve reality. Building an escapist space fantasy and supporting a community that just wants to have fun is a far better reason to make a video game than taking preorders for games that are tied to draconian DRM software like EA and Ubisoft, or building a pyramid scheme based on a cabal of cryptobros like the "creators" of Star Atlas.
Being patient is fine once. I enjoyed watching Star Citizen grow. I think we need to admit that ALL triple-A now have a 10-year development schedule, and that we need to re-evaluate whether every game needs the player to make a commitment to enjoy the game without buying in-game content. I dedicate myself to LEGO Brawls, Crossout and OpenTTD, I have the time to play Star Citizen too but that's my limit. I can't dedicate all my time off to a game after that. Maybe games need to be shorter again?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I whole heartedly agree. NFT/cryptocurrencies have their place, but I haven't seen that place in practice. The tech is good, greed isn't. Maybe I'll build a game someday to prove it.
I hate the term "scam" because most people use it to mean "not a good deal" when it actually means "getting something other than what was advertised." In this case, Star Citizen had a huge case of scope creep to the point where it could be considered a scam because it shouldn't take 10 years to deliver what they originally promised.
Haven't heard of either, I'm guessing I wouldn't like them. I avoid Early Access games as a general rule.
Agreed. I didn't back Star Citizen nor have I played it. So I don't talk about it. In fact, this might be the first time I've engaged in a discussion about it on lemmy, and I'm only doing it to discuss the topic of "scams," not the game itself. However, you draw a false equivalency, you can just play indie or older games instead, that's what I do.
Yes, games should be shorter, and I'm happy with less tech as well. I play a lot of indie games, and only get AAA games when they provide a tight experience.

On the topic of MMOs, I want to point out that I generally avoid them. I think they can be done well, I just think they've been captured by the "do dailies to progress" perspective where you miss out if you don't dedicate your life to it.

I want to make an MMO that respects the player's time. The best way I can think of it working is for it to be cyclical. As in, you play until some in-game event happens (my preference is a large guild battle over some resource), then the world resets and the winners get some boon and everyone carries something forward to the next round (new players pick a starting perk). Cycles should be relatively short (days, maybe weeks, and definitely not years), and each cycle should bring something new to the game. I would play that, but I'm definitely not playing a longer game like Star Citizen.

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[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

I don't mind them as a concept. I'm just jealous I'm not young enough to have the spare time and reflexes to get in on one at the ground floor and git good, follow the meta, keep up with the lore and memes...

[–] MarauderIIC@dormi.zone 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't like Outer Wilds. I played it. I beat it. It was irritating almost all the way through.

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