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(or as I call it, lead-kopper99 ๐Ÿ˜€)

Do you believe it's a hoax? Or real but not entirely as good as promised?

I am 5050 on it being real ATM, I hope it will allow us to find even new elements with interesting characteristics. Science really is like magic, but real.

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[โ€“] RickRussell_CA@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are about a zillion ways it could prove to be impractical. Apatite is a crystal, and presumably this lead apatite is also a crystal. We also don't know if it can be deposited in a useful thickness; the samples tested so far were created by gas deposition on glass. Can it be built up to a useful thickness, and maintain its superconducting properties? All unknown.

But, real progress always comes in small steps. It's exceedingly rare for any discovery to result in a useful product immediately.

[โ€“] farcaster@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Great comment. However let's not forget the history of many exotic materials which were made practical to manufacture after their useful properties were found. Consider many types of semiconductors, blue LEDs, carbon fiber, etc. All once super expensive but now commonplace. This makes me at least somewhat optimistic that if a material is useful enough (and a superconductor would be revolutionary) fabrication will be solved. Hopefully.

[โ€“] RickRussell_CA@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Sure... but for every 1 of those examples, there are 100 or 1000 variants that showed astonishing properties in the laboratory that were never manufactured at scale due to cost or other undesirable material characteristics.

Lead apatite may turn out to be an important step, or maybe not. When Paul Chu made the first big breakthrough with yttrium/barium superconductors at liquid nitrogen temps, everybody thought that workable room temperature superconductors were right around the corner. That was almost 40 years ago. As of right now, we don't know whether "room temperature superconductivity at scale" is 1 year or 1 century away. It's closer, probably? That's about all we can guess.

[โ€“] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, a lot of people are very excited about applications that would require this material in bulk, like power transmission, and I don't see this happening with the fabrication methods we have now. Still incredibly excited about this, though, and crossing my fingers that the results can be replicated and confirmed quickly!

[โ€“] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's either real or its not real. So yeah 50/50 chance.

[โ€“] sexy_peach@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

good thinking there ;)