I hope Germany will do the same. In the western world there is no room for religion in authorities and public owned institutions.
this post was submitted on 21 Mar 2025
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Klugscheisser. No state should dictate how someone chooses to dress themselves, whether it's a religious garb or not, as long as it doesn't infringe on the safety of others or indecency laws.
Germany is too religious to do something like that, unfortunately. Their biggest party calls itself Christian, they still collect data about people's religions, are quite weak on women's reproductive rights etc.
Christian is only the name. The church criticises them on a regular basis. The CDU/CSU are just the conservatives of Germany.
So you don't think Muslim students should have the freedom to wear a hijab if they choose? Pathetic.
Sadly I couldn't wear a hat or a beanie in school. To some its all it is but that's people who never know how serious it is to them.
The girls in my school were allowed to wear tight hair coverings. I was jerk one time about it saying it was loose and almost made her cry. They take that ultra serious. Learned my lesson right there. This will force them out of public schools and that's probably the intent.
The lesson here isn't "they shouldn't be able to wear headwear, either", but "I should be able to wear headwear, too".
Are you saying if everyone can wear it, it is ok?
I'm saying everyone should have equal freedom to wear the headwear they want to wear or not wear, regardless of whether it's for fashion, cultural, or religious reasons.
Cheers to that
But as you know, hijabs, turbans and yamulkes are not equal to a hat. A hat is something you put on as an accessory and can easily take off, the other three are basic tenets of those people's faith, a very different thing indeed. I believe a public school system should be staunchly secular, but to not allow someone to wear something mandated by their faith isn't secularism, it's religious oppression.
Public school was in my mind is education for the masses free to all citizens. So wear a tiny blue cap or dress in fae outfit so long as it doesn't disturb anyone. IMO best way to help those kids? Let them be part of secular society. Once they see the freedom others have they will want it. It may not help them now but 15 years from now when they are more independent. Maybe even sooner Or maybe they'll just be less restricted with their kids. Isolating them is not the answer.
Absolutely agreed, isolationism is a game with no winners.
They can wear the hijab if they go to private schools and universities. If they want to go to public educational institutions, they have to comply. Germany was very liberal to people who are actively practising one religion. Then they began to make problems in many ways. For example, there was a room for religious people to pray in the university. The result was that the people fighted each other because they had different religions. The women were isolated from the men. Now there is not a room anymore. This was one of the more harmless problems.
I'm an atheist and completely non-religious - but someone wearing a hijab, a turban or a yamulke in observance of their religious beliefs is frankly none of my business, and has zero effect on me. I believe in a secular public school system, but that doesn't mean oppressing someone's religious freedom.
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I don’t really agree with banning someone’s personal religious symbol, but if they’re a government employee, like a teacher, I see the argument. That being said, why ban the students from wearing religious symbols?
Meanwhile, in the USA, there are states trying to mandate Christian symbols in schools.
Why ? Because CAQ is and was a racist government. There’s a good chance that there’s first big law (21 ?) will be rule anti constitutional, now they’re on the verge to lose (hard) their third mandate (they win the 2nd because Covid) and they push law that will change nothing to make things look like they are doing something. How the law is written they want to ban full nikab but hijab (maybe I inverse the two) will be okay but an asshole school administrators could use the law to be racist
In the meantime they are trying to pass a law that will limit the Quebecer’s rights to manifest.
What do you think about state mandated mini skirts for teachers? Since you are a big fan of telling people what they are allowed to wear.
So again, I don’t agree with it. What I meant was that there is an argument to keeping teachers from displaying religious imagery, since one could mistakenly interpret that as the state promoting a particular religion. I think that argument is weak, but at least there’s flimsy logic behind it. There’s no logic behind keeping students from displaying religious imagery.
Do you understand what I mean?
I have had plenty of teachers wearing crosses and other religious symbols and have never been bothered by it.
If anything it helps students identify there are other cultures in a multicultural society.
There is only one clear reason for these laws and it inspired by French colonialism.
Legault keeps "solving" problems that don't exist to try to appear more nationalistic than the PQ.
They are just pushing moral panic against Muslims to appear like they are doing something to protect QC culture. At the same the same time they have defunded french language classes. And they keep not saying anything about how the feds are consistently discriminating against African francophone potential immigrants.
There is no culture war with Muslims in actual Quebec society beyond the shit the CAQ is stirring to stay in the news. There are no armies of niqab wearing fanatics trying to take over our cities. But it costs the government nothing to push this crap. This is all shadowboxing for appearances.
Good. Ban displays of crucifixes and necklaces with crosses as well.
Religious symbols have no place in tax payer funded institutions.
Are the taxpayers paying for the hijabs?
Maybe Canada is already a Red State and just doesn’t know it yet.
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