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Incandescent light bulbs are officially banned in the U.S.::America’s ban on incandescent light bulbs, 16 years in the making, is finally a reality. Well, mostly.

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[–] varogen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Doors anyone have a recommendation for LEDs that don't constantly flicker and can dim without going out whenever my AC kicks on?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Once they got the white light spectrum figured out I was fine with switching to leds. Less power, don't get hot, last longer.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody's talking about the real casualty of this shift. What's going to happen to all the jokes about "how many (insert category of person here) does it take to change a light bulb?" now that people don't have to regularly change light bulbs anymore?

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No single LED lightbulb I've ever purchased lasts as long as they claim. infact, many have been outlasted by existing incandescent bulbs in my house. your joke fodder is safe.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t know what kind of shit LEDs you’ve been buying but I’ve yet to ever have to replace one. Been using them for many years already.

[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been in the industry for over a decade and I find it fascinating how much lighting has changed in that time. When LEDs were first available, they were $60+ per bulb. Now you can get multipacks for under $10. Also, CFL bulbs were almost universally hated by everyone (and for good reason) now we no longer sell them. We strictly sell LEDs for regular lighting and we still sell incandescent specialty bulbs. Also, when LEDs first arrived there was a lot of distain for them, especially by the elderly. They wanted their energy wasting incandescent bulbs dammit! It seems the majority of them have come around because they've learned that LEDs are better.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also it became a political issue as all things should be somehow

[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. Many of the people that objected also wore MAGA hats. I think the whole idea was that it was better for the environment and you know what that means.

[–] xradeon@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I think the main issue with initial Led bulbs was their color was wrong. Incandescent bulbs emit light at 2700K, a nice warm white. Early LEDs emitted light at more like 5000K or there abouts, which is a really white light. Same with CFLs. Elderly people didn't like that at all. Honestly it wasn't just them, lots of people hated them for their too white of light.

Today you can get LEDs that are 2700K and/or are adjustable to what ever color you want.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lib.lgbt 0 points 1 year ago

Is there a brand that's better for LED? I get migraines and the stroking effect of LED bulbs can be a trigger.

LED christmas bulbs particularly bad. It felt like walking into a rave at the Christmas store.

[–] EverStar289@citizensgaming.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I don't support overreach in regulation.

Put a tax on it or something, but a full ban seems excessive. Now that most people understand that LEDs are superior, they are cheaper, and there are more options, most people will make the switch.

[–] qyron@lemmy.pt 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No really. A lot of people, even when shown proof, out of simple spite just double down on their position.

When energy saving and early LED bulbs started to be deployed in my country, while the fade out of incandescent bulbs was put in place, we had runs for buying every single incandescent bulb available. The change was not welcome. Even if changing meant real, objective, tangible savings.

People would put in large orders for bulbs, arguing they wanted to "have proper lighting as long has they lived". Luckily, the stocks quickly ran out and some distributors simply refused to pass the stocks to the market.

A government cutting off a product is not overreach: it's forcing change that otherwise would not happen, for the better.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A lot of people, even when shown proof, out of simple spite just double down on their position.

But is it enough to really matter? Especially after the market for incandescent shrivels?

[–] qyron@lemmy.pt 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I'm not following your reasoning. Can you elaborate, please?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People will bitch about the one guy buying all the incandescent bulbs but ignore the fact that everyone else isn't.

1 old dude isn't enough to make a difference.

[–] qyron@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This wasn't one or two isolated cases: it was a race to the stores.

I was a kid then and my grandparents got caught in the wave and bought more lamps that they required to light the entire house. Which later proved to be of bad quality and aided me in making their transition to energy saving bulbs.

People would line up in front of stores to get the precious, precious bulbs, making the exact same sort of conversation and observations we can read throughout this thread, criticizing government and politics in general.

The store owners would chime in and add fuel to the fire, stating a lot of people would lose their jobs, as the factories would close (cute fact: there was precisely zero factories for those products in the entire country).

People are stubborn and will not change ways unless no other option is available and even then grudgingly, while companies only shift practices if forced, be it by force of law or by cash flow and profit goals.

Governments enforcing positive laws and regulations, even if unpopular, are necessary measures to move things forward in a modern society.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Most people willingly migrated to LEDs when the circumstances shifted in their favor. There was absolutely no law required. The fact that most people are using LEDs before this was even enforced kinda proves my point. The number of holdouts is small enough to be ignored.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sucks. I’m gonna have to compete with boomers for dim bulb tester refills.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thought LEDs can do this too

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

No/it depends on the board design.

Even if it’ll give you different brightness the behavior in weird conditions is different and it’s not diagnostic or protective and you can’t drop in lower wattage bulbs for testing and tv work.