Progressive Politics

Confused: I've heard of 50501 on Lemmy, but today is the first time I've heard of "Hands Off". Are they related?

This is huge - thank you for posting this!

That's an incredible show of force. Imagine if they could all be brought into DC. The police and military would be overwhelmed, especially if they were organized and given clear roles with clear objectives and steps. This is a movement that ActBlue needs to be kept away from. We keep lists, but not for fundraising, for activating them into action. Giving money is not action. Registering voters is action, canvassing is action, helping our communities is action. That's what this movement should be. Just action, and achieving a goal.

it's really encouraging. I've thought a lot about it and I don't see many viable alternatives to mass mobilization/protest right now.

lets consider a few of the most common alternatives to protests you hear from online leftists and dismantle them one by one: 1). General Strike 2). Guillotines/purge style violence 3.) Vote harder

what preconditions are necessary for those things to even be possible? how will we get normal, apolitical people leading ignorant lives involved enough to overcome the doomerism/apathy/loneliness/passivity that undercuts our ability to take action? it's going to take enormous social pressure. social pressure is one of the most powerful motivators for humans, at a basic biological level.

1- no one's going on a Strike until they believe that a fuckton of other people are doing it and they won't simply be fired.

2- no one is running out to buy Purge supplies unless they are absolutely convinced that hundreds of thousands of other people are doing it too and they can disappear in the crowd to evade being caught and prosecuted.

3- and as for voting... we all know that ship has sailed. elections are not going to be free or fair here on out (arguably never were). our current elected officials won't listen or won't actually put up a fight (Dems are ineffectual opposition party). and the govt is completely captured by corporations and insiders.. say goodbye to the courts and regulatory agencies who ensure govt accountability. how will winning an election alleviate these systemic problems?

arguably, the strategic and controlled intimidation of government officials (after Jan 6th, trust me, theyre scared of big motivated crowds) using well orchestrated protest events, is exactly how you change things when free and fair elections no longer work.

I'm open to all possibilities... but we need to realize that people have to get up off our asses and go into the world to accomplish any of them. attending a mom and pop friendly protest is a good starting place.

While absolutely awesome and I support and encourage this in every way; that's less than 1% of the population of the US.