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Would it stifle the opensource development and new AI startups and only benefit the established big tech companies? It's kinda vague and I couldn't understand in my first read but does the executive order lacks teeth? That is if the guideline is not followed closely can government do anything to opensource community or new startups?

limk to one of articles (no paywall) : https://www.reuters.com/technology/white-house-unveils-wide-ranging-action-mitigate-ai-risks-2023-10-30/

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[–] I_will_delete_myself@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only problem I have is the first point. You are limited by compute and any large language model now needs to report to the government.

They are also weighing in about open source weights so this seems like a warning attack on open source models within 270 days. Which may get open source AI banned under the guise of national security. We need to be loud and speak our thoughts now!

FU Mr World coin. You benefit from Open source and now trying to bite the hand that feed you.

[–] freaklemur@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The compute limit is 10^26 operations. For reference, NVIDIA trained GPT-3 on ~3500 H100s in just under 11 minutes which, assuming FP8 which is the highest op count, comes out to ~10^22 operations. With the same setup, they'd have to train for over 81 days to reach the 10^26 limit so it's likely not going to impact anyone except for those training incredibly large models.

Edit: MLPerf link

[–] bregav@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That's just the initial set of conditions for reporting requirements; the EO instructs the Secretary of Commerce to come up with new technical conditions for reporting that will supersede those.

See section 4.2 (b): https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/

[–] campbe79@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yet. Limiting this on todays compute power and requirements seems short sighted

[–] AndLD@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It is clearly an attack on open source and innovation

[–] matthewjc@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

A complete waste of time that will accomplish nothing

[–] ReasonablyBadass@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Really wary of big tech trying to relate moats.

[–] dinkboz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think it is extremely necessary to have regulation of AI just like we have regulation of regular engineering protocols. I am extremely suspicious about tech companies lobbying certain regulations for Biden as I am almost 100% sure that it’s only about maximizing big tech money instead of making sure they don’t abuse AI.

[–] FernandoMM1220@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

where is the actual executive order?

I dont mind any regulations since they can always be repealed and replaced if necessary.

[–] schwrzstrbn@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

So it's only applicable to murica while other countries can freely catch up to the technological innovation? thats great. He is indeed a genius.

[–] Ices_I-IX@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Itʼs the source of energy for the universe. You know th k-hole? If you pussies donʼt whip it into shape like Him, youʼll never make it onto the gravy train. Which is fine, but you must eat your cołłectice blood quantum, men who arenʼt in the Hive.

[–] RFproxy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The oligopoly lobbying money from Openai/antropic/google must be paying off, making it nice and hard for smaller AI startups to enter the space with more regulation. A bit sad to see, hopefully other countries are not as captured by the lobbying indistry.

[–] eldron2323@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They can’t even govern their own spending habits, let alone understanding how technology like AI works. Just a slow moving stinky ol fart.