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[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I like the article, but red tape means pointless or needlessly complicated bureaucracy. Doesn’t apply to just any regulation.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago

Exactly, this isn't red tape, it's very legit and useful.

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 18 points 10 months ago

In quest to defeat Euro red-tape, local construction company had to stop using Asbestos

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Omg what a stupid argument from Apple.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

I mean, it's a smart argument, because they want to keep control of their closed platform and not follow regulations. It's just also nonsense and rather unethical.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

This strategy appears not to have been very effective.

It appears the author agrees with you.

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

One for x86(/64), one for arm(64), one for RISC ? That doesn't seem like a valid argument.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol, that is still a monopoly in the Apple garden according to the EU.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

because it is. Also why Risc V?

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

RISC != RISC-V

for the long explanation, look it up in Wikipedia, but briefly, RISC is a "family" of CPU architectures that includes ARM, MIPS and RISC-V. The other one is called CISC, which x86 belongs to.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I get it, but he explicitly mentioned arm already, hence I implied Risc V

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

If you read the article, it’s one for iOS, one for iPadOS and one for macOS. Which makes sense to see them as three different software (they probably only share the WebKit engine), but not as different product for core market.

It also might explain why Apple is so adamant on renaming the OS on different devices, and not using the iOS brand for iPad and Apple TV for example.

It’s flailing at best for technically being correct in legal cases. Which works in the US, but the EU is seeing right through it.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Apple tried to avoid regulation in the European Union by making a surprising claim – that it offers not one but three distinct web browsers, all coincidentally named Safari.

As a result, it's expected that Apple will allow third-party app stores that work with iOS and browser engines other than Safari's WebKit by March 2024 – in Europe, if not elsewhere.

In its response, "Apple reiterated its position that each of its Safari web browsers constitutes a distinct [core platform service]," the European Commission said in its newly published decision document [PDF].

He also argued that Apple's approach explicitly violates the DMA's Anti-Circumvention provision that forbids subdividing a platform's market share to avoid regulation.

Citing six different issues with Apple's claims, the commission concluded: "Safari qualifies as a single web browser, irrespective of the device through which that service is accessed."

Jon von Tetzchner, CEO of browser biz Vivaldi, told The Register in a phone interview that Apple, Google, and Microsoft all are trying to find ways to avoid onerous DMA requirements.


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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

Somewhere, somehow, apple fans are nodding along and agreeing with this disingenuous take while ordering another overpriced device.

[–] Gorgeous_Sloth@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago