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[–] spizzat2@lemm.ee 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The headline made me think I must be missing something. It's not weird to me that games look better/more realistic over time. That's the progression of technology.

So I watched the video, and... if I was missing something in the headline, I missed it in the video, too. I want my 6 minutes back, please.

[–] toAIC@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 year ago

thanks for saving me 6 minutes

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Thank you for taking the hit so we dont have to

[–] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

To summarize: the video opens on a series of games, each one progressively older, overlaid with a review of that game from the time it came out praising it as the best graphical fidelity of its time. Basically, they're saying "Yes, graphics got better, but we always seem to conclude that they're the best they will ever be"

[–] RickRussell_CA@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Eh, I was there. The games were OK.

The biggest change is that we put up with a lot more repetitive gameplay back then, just because that's how games were and there wasn't enough horsepower to make complex stuff.

Today, you blow through a level of a modern first person game, or whatever, and see only a tiny fraction of what the game makers created for you. I played Titanfall 2 for the first time recently, and after playing the same level a few times, I noticed that a room that appears only briefly as you take an elevator past it has an extension cord coiled up on the floor. You can only see it if you look down as the elevator goes up, so you can see the floor of the room.

Old games didn't have the room for those kinds of indulgences.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Isn't it weird that Homo Sapiens is smarter than australopithecine ?

[–] toxicbubble420@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

unless they're switch & mobile ports*

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

As a kid in the 90s, I couldn't really tell the difference between the capabilities of the SNES or Genesis and a hand-drawn cartoon on TV. As far as I could tell, if it was 2D, those machines could process it, but my brother and his friends just a few years older than me could tell where the limits were. When Mortal Kombat got big, I thought that was the end state for video game graphics. Everyone's just going to do that, because you can't get more real than real people, I thought. Early 3D graphics did age more poorly than the best pixel art the SNES and Genesis had to offer, and we knew at the time that that would be the case too. After years of revisiting those 2D games via emulation, a trip to a local Barcade reminded me of how important scanlines were to the art style of most games from the era, and now I basically only emulate those games with scanlines on and the most accurate emulation available when I'm playing anything earlier than the PS2.

Half-Life 2 was insanely impressive, and the thing that sold it most was the big real-time G Man head at the beginning of the game. Valve took cutting edge research in animating faces during dialogue and implemented it into the game in a way no one had seen before. It did wonders for selling the "realness" of what you were looking at. Just 3 years later, we had Crysis, a game pushing graphics so far that no one could even build a machine that could run it at max settings at the time, but even on medium settings, it was the best-looking game I'd ever seen.

Nowadays, I can look at a Digital Foundry video with side by side examples of ray tracing on and off, with them explaining to me how and why it's so much better, and I often can't really tell the difference unless I squint. I did see an Alan Wake II example that seemed pretty noticeable, but mostly only in the side-by-side, and if I was in the market for Alan Wake II, I likely wouldn't notice what I was missing when ray tracing is turned off. The things that make games look best to me now are when they can add all of that fidelity to the textures and animations of human beings, like in Death Stranding, because we're wired to more easily detect when a human being isn't real than anything else.

[–] Leax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Great video, thanks!