Do all these dickheads go to a school to learn the same specific hand gestures?
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Wow! I've always wanted a browser that would track everything about me! /s
Gotta get me some of that.
In other news, Perplexity has signed a deal with Motorola to have the browser preinstalled on their phones.
Thx, for the heads up. The only reason I'm not typing this on a motorola g85 is because I got distracted when I was ordering it. Now I've got to search for a different brand.
I appreciate him saying it upfront. Makes it easy to stay away from all of their products.
Companies are so removed from what users want, they only focus on what shareholders want to hear and don't consider that users will hate it.
Because there is legal precedent that says shareholders come first.
You can blame Dodge for this. Yes, that Dodge.
Too bad, that long-term users still kind of decide the fate of the company (as shareholders at some point realize that their share probably is not worth it).
I'm really keen to see when this happens to Tesla, I'm thinking about shorting the stock, it's so vastly overvalued, and there's strong competition and sales are crashing everywhere (because of too much Nazi)
Too bad, that long-term users still kind of decide the fate of the company (as shareholders at some point realize that their share probably is not worth it).
Yeah, that's really the kicker, isn't it? Legally beholden to the shareholders who demand short term profits forever and ever, risking the loss of long-term customers.
It's a guaranteed death.
But then users use it anyway for some reason. Many people care so little.
Most people are unintelligent sacks of meat, not much critical thought about what they do runs through their minds.
Attention is invisible until you take the time to acknowledge it. People will never treat it as a resource of the same value as these companies, because they don't even recognize it as something being taken away from them (despite that it is actually the most precious resource - our literal lives), and that disparity will always be profitable.
It is legislation's work.
That’s like a cigarette brand marketing themselves as the most cancer-causing.
Before even reading the article, I’m thinking they’re maybe selling it as a good thing along the lines of “do you hate to see those ads you don’t care about? Taking space on your apps and pages? What if there was a way to make them actually useful! Make them feel like content, just for you!”
I feel like I have to point out that this is horrific either way
Edit: I actually talked about this quickly with a few almost tech-illiterate friends and they were honestly excited about that at first, when I didn’t preface it with my reasoned disdain for it or the privacy implications.. so despite the way we here react to it, I’m almost sure this will sell amazingly.
Oh yeah I'm definitely going to use that. He's a marketing genius.
When using my current browser, any guess as to how often I've said to myself "I need a browser that spies on me more"?
Beep boop, this is your browser speaking. You have stated that you need a browser that spies on you more one (1) times.
And people would voluntarily use this browser ....why?
I hate when people post hyperpartisan reporting because it makes me do homework. In this case, you made me listen to almost an hour of a three hour podcast with three techbros chatting about techbro crap in techbro ways. You owe me years of life.
Anyway, so the conspicuously missing context here is he's asked if they will let go of the subscription model and go after an ad business model instead and he responds "hopefully not" and clarifies that he thinks the AI differentiator from Google search is that it doesn't feed people ads.
He then transitions into saying that you'd need a super hyperspecialized profile for it to make sense and then maybe it could work but they haven't figured out long term memory well enough for that, which is when he talks about why they'd want to have a browser to build that hyperspecialized profile.
This is my least favorite type of misinfo, too, because he's actually kinda saying what they say he's saying, just out of context. But more importantly, because he says some other shit that is more outrageous, too. For example, when explaining why he thinks the subscription business will grow more than the ad business the way he puts it is that "people see it as hiring someone", so they're more willing to spend, and he ponders "how much do people pay for personal assistants and assistant managers and nannies?" and suggests that they'll provide similar services for cheaper to people who can't afford human help.
Which may not be as clickbaity and I get he finds it positive-on-the-aggregate, but is certainly some cyberpunk dystopia stuff that didn't need the out of context quoting to be a thing.
A scholar and a gentleman!
You owe me years of life.
Best I can do is an upvote and a hearty thank you.
Thank you!
Thanks for you sacrifice and service (it does sound like, but it is NOT sarcastic)
We need more people like you, thank you
Is Chrome not doing exactly this?
Chrome doesn't really collect much data directly. It just has no protection against all the trackers on nearly every website that do.
Chrome is relatively limited in scope compared to, say, a user on an instance of degoogled chromium just using the same Google services along with all the other browsing they do. The extra data that's gathered is generally going to be things like a little more DNS query information, (assuming your device isn't already set to default to Google's DNS server) links you visit that don't already have Google's trackers on them (very few) and some general information like when you're turning on your computer and Chrome is opening up.
The real difference is in how Chrome doesn't protect you like other browsers do, and it thus makes more of the collection that Google's services do indirectly, possible.
Perplexity is still being pretty vague here, but if I had to guess, it would essentially just be taking all the stuff that Google would usually get from tracking pixels and ad cookies, and baking that directly in to the browser instead of it relying on individual sites using it.
This is really good information, now I know to avoid their browser like the plague.
Why would I use such a browser?
Because some influencer say you should. Works this way for too many people.
The amount of folks I see use Opera GX "gaming browser" because some influencer said so...
Hey, look for that browser to fail instantly as no one will use it.
They don't want people to use it. They want Google to give them a big bag of money so they can integrate it into chrome.
I would like for the people, who come up with these ideas, to dogfood their own product. Actually force them to try their own medicine. It would be a single digit percentage of acceptance then
You grossly underestimate how much some people truly love the idea of highly personalized ads. People who believe they are the best possible outcome and cannot fathom why anyone would have any problem with them at all. That's who you are asking to dogfood this product, and they would and would find no issues with it.
Ok how long after this browser goes live till we hear it being used by the FBI to track criminals.
Where is the hacktivism when you need it? These companies need to be gutted from the inside out.
Begin, the AI wars have.
I think I read somewhere they want to buy Chrome from Google if they are forced to sell. So not many changes, just switching owners who ultimately do the same thing.
i’m not a Chrome user, so screw both google and perplexity.
Srinivas believes that Perplexity’s browser users will be fine with such tracking because the ads should be more relevant to them.
Believes it, or is just spinning it that way?
You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I'd immediately not want it any more.
Enough already.
Jesus, that escalated quickly...