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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 54 points 23 hours ago

Trump’s Night of the long knives coming next

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I don't see any mention of a warrant.

Not that I'm surprised by that, but to say this is an "escalation" is an understatement.

This is a declaration of absolute power.

Edit: she was released on bond. Meaning a magistrate validated a warrant. Who signed the warrant?

Editl 2: Magistrate Dries did, yesterday. FBI Agent Lindsay Schloemer filed the complaint. Interestinginly Dugar wasn't the only judge who told the ICE officers to fuck off (in legal terms). She just told them then defendant and his attorney they could leave because ICE didn't have the correct warrant.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 day ago

America, this is your five alarm fire. If everything else wasn't enough to get you moving, dear God please let this be it.

Get out and protest. Get talking to the other people at those protests. Build your network. You're going to need it for what is coming.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 1 day ago (8 children)

This is how civil war starts. If the judiciary starts issuing arrest warrants over this unlawful kidnapping, they may need to deputize officers that are not under the control of the trump admin which could pit our armed forces against each other. Best case scenario is the judiciary finds the arrest unlawful and the FBI backs down because they're being threatened with contempt.

[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 15 points 23 hours ago
[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I fear the majority of trigger-pullers are pro-trump and pro-deportation, no matter where they live. I fear that "revolution" will entail the United States' progressives getting absolutely brutalized until the regime seizes total control.

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Valhalla before El Salvador.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (6 children)

you might be surprised. there are those who are very open about owning weapons, but there are just as many who do not flaunt what they're equipped with. there are still lots of reasons left-leaning people might own guns, like hunting, self defense, pure hobby shooting, etc. i think progressive people have been stereotyped as anti-gun because they tend to be anti-kids-getting-shot-in-school, but they're not quite the same thing.

it's possible progressive might be out-gunned, but it's by no means a guarantee.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

Liberal gun owner here, yup.

Wife wanted to get me a tactical looking cross body bag but I was like, "nah, I need something Italian, leather, and looks like I keep my lip balm in it instead of my gun".

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Anarchist gun owner here. Yep. Granted mine are mostly WW1 era pieces of history and others are nerdy but yeah.. there are lefties out there who are properly legally licensed.

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Senators, governors, and mayors of "sanctuaries" are going to be close behind.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago

Once the non-loyal judges are imprisoned, everyone else who isn't white and Republican will also be on the chopping block.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 29 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oh thank God! I through the news was quiet today! So now we're arresting judges. Checks and balances go out the window. Now its just a clear dictatorship.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey guys, it’s a really good sign when judges are getting arrested, right? Very normal and functioning country? 😬

[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago

My local branch of the ICE Enforcement and Removal division is not answering calls. It rings and rings without end.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a clear authoritarian signal and power grab, but trying to think practically since I'm getting exhausted with my own powerless exasperation with nothing to show for it:

To get an arrest warrant, you typically would need a judge to sign off on it. So either (a) another judge signed the warrant to arrest this judge, or (b) they falsely arrested the judge without a proper warrant.

I think (b) is possible with how slipshod Trump officials are, but more likely they followed the letter if not the spirit of the law, so (a). That suggests that there may be a pocket judge signing spurious warrants for Patel. This also makes more sense, since they likely need cover when assisting ICE, so they'd want someone in that role.

So in a healthy system, first would be Congress forcibly removing Patel. Probably every GOP congressperson's response here will be "I haven't heard about that, now I'll walk away down this hall casual-like because frankly nobody is going to hold me accountable." The other less direct approach would be to identify this judge then there may be a removal process. What other things can be done here short of revolution?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The article doesn't mention anything about a warrant. If there is a warrant, there is a record of the judge that signed it.

And that judge would have to have jurisdiction I think. So in either case, the answer is be prepared for shit

Edit: She was released on bond, meaning a judge validated the warrant, meaning there's a warrant, and a judge who signed it. This is bad.

[–] scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So shoot first, ask questions later?

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Shoot first, ask questions never.

You want to ask questions? You get shot first

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Increased danger to the public?

If dude was already out and about and minding his business, dude continuing to be out and about keeps the amount of danger just about the same.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

He was also not out and about and minding his business, he was already in the courthouse in front of the judge. There was no danger to the public because he was at the courthouse. If anything, ICE created the danger by chasing him out of the courthouse and escalating the situation.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago

More info on the circumstances: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/23/ice-arrested-mexican-immigrant-after-hearing-before-judge-dugan/83233154007/

Last week's arrest marked at least the third time in recent months that federal immigration agents have come to the courthouse with arrest warrants. In March and early April, two people were arrested by ICE officials in the hallways of the courthouse.

Following the earlier arrests at the courthouse, county officials and stakeholders expressed concerns about the impact ICE's presence has on immigrants' accessing the justice system and other services at the courthouse.

"The last thing we want is to interfere with the legal process or sow doubt in those summoned to the courthouse about whether or not they will receive fair, impartial justice," Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley said at the time.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

I know trumpers won’t ever hear about this or if they do it will be a completely twisted story and they’ll think the judge shot at the ice agents or something but the amount of mental effort it has to take to not see this as a tinpot dictator move is unbelievable. It’s hard to believe people this dumb walk among us and go to work and everything

Yeah this is pretty fucking blatant

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago

"Judges? Where we're going, we won't need judges." *proceeds to fly away in the original Volkswagen*

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