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[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

pot calling the kettle black are we

(I just googled this phrase since to be honest I didn't know its origins and I really prefer the 1639 version "Pot calling the pan burnt-arsed" now)

[–] zzzzz@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

Pot calling the pan burnt-arsed

Thank you for this!

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[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Slides from 20 years ago.

This is news, yes, especially considering that Apple made a deal with the devil considering its new self-reported bloom as privacy focused.

But news headlines are acting like Apple just said this today, and that is complete headline bait.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

10 years ago, I dont think android was released on 2003.

The 2013-era slides describe, in typical modest fashion for Apple, its overall approach at the time to privacy.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yet Apple gladly takes billions from Google so that they remain the default search engine.

[–] lisko@sopuli.xyz 19 points 10 months ago

Says Apple lol

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I guess what that slide meant was not what the author thought.

Well, yes, Android is a "massive tracking device", but Google Search is not the culprit. Android apps were able to collect user data easily because they didn't have to ask for users' permission (and even today, by using an old Android API iirc).

So, no, I don't trust Apple, but that slide is probably irrelevant.

[–] chrismit3s@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

and even today, by using an old Android API iirc

Nope, the required API to have your app in the Playstore constantly rises, and if you don't comply you get kicked. The current API version is something around 26, and definitely has the permissions model integrated.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but you can distribute your app outside and the official store then

[–] CalicoJack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

They're also adding an API version check on devices, which will affect old apps that have gotten around the store checks. Only affects devices that can upgrade to 14, but it's a solid step.

[–] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

eh, anything Apple says about direct competition is a lie. every time

[–] zzzzz@beehaw.org 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, in this case, it is a lie of omission. It is true that Android devices are massive trackers. But, so are Apple devices.

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[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

At least we know about it.

[–] Idirian@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago

Will, they would, wouldn't they. Tossers.