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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

It's high time open source projects and anything to do with software freedom and privacy relocated outside of the US. It wasn't great before that a lot of them are hosted in the US, but now it's urgent. It's not even a matter of principle anymore.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I'm not sure I see the urgency? Plenty of organizations in the US love free software, OSU wouldn't be providing hosting if they didn't. Additionally most of Europe isn't exactly a bastion of privacy. There are certainly exceptions, notably Switzerland but the majority isn't that much better if you ask me. I'm also not entirely sure how privacy is all that relevant to where websites and source code is hosted, these projects aren't storing personal information. I think the important thing is that these projects are hosted and that funding is found. Where they're hosted is mostly irrelevant.

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 2 points 20 hours ago

Exactly; a lot of international organisations are already located in Switzerland, so there shouldn't be many gripes with that (also means you aren't at the whims of a global empire in self-destruct mode)

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Well, that isn't the easiest donation process, but I guess they don't have much to do with it.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They’re only looking for $250,000. That seems like it should be achievable. Really, a handful of corporate sponsorships from big companies, where $50,000 is almost nothing, could be all they need. Or 50,000 people giving $5 once a year.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If every Lemmy use donated 1 dollar it would work

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It sounds like right now Lemmy needs the Lemmy users donating to Lemmy!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's a hard pass for me. I'm not funding there attempts to brainwash people.

[–] irelephant@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago

Really wish they separated donations for .ml and developement.

^cmon^ ^sublinks^ ^i'm^ ^too^ ^used^ ^to^ ^the^ ^lemmyui^ ^that^ ^i^ ^cant^ ^use^ ^piefed^

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is where the EU could step up and run an alternative.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Based on US Hardware sponsored software by MS etc. Like our EU Cloud...

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly, until three things happen, this is not likely to change.

  1. LDAP for anything other than Windows needs to get way better, support for GPOs as extensively at Windows has is a requiernment.
  2. Software, you can have the coolest OS in the world, but as long as it doesn't have normal third party applications, it is not suitable for office or government work.
  3. Technicians, you need to have knowledgable technicians to support the OS, without them there is no way any company or government would ever use it.
[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, on a national level when I think of Germany... Limux was very successful and not unpopular with users in the authorities. It wasn't problematic either, but failed because Munich's mayor is an MS fanboy and MS helped with lobbying. If you look today, Schleswig Holstein, for example, uses a lot of open source and other federal states are slowly following suit. Lobbying is causing extreme problems.

So the main problem is lobbying and corrupt politicans

Of course, the industry will not be a pioneer. They use the most favorable offer for them and as long as there are no serious reasons, they will not switch unnecessarily. After all, they want to make a profit. So the countries have to be pioneers. This is where the problems mentioned above come in.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks. I've only heard the narrative that users had compatability issues; I did hear Microsoft went heavy on pushing to get then back into the ecosystem, basically offering installs and the suite for practically free, but I also heard there was negative feedback from the Munich employees. I hadn't heard about Munich's mayor being an MS advocate.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

The city council was overwhelmingly in favor at the time, as was the administration. There were also only positive independent studies until the very end, when a negative one came from a company that cooperates with Microsoft. That was the point at which the city council and administration were suddenly against Limux and made themselves dependent on MS again. There were also negotiations at the time regarding a Microsoft headquarters, which was subsequently built.