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An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Have you considered applying for a FUTO grant?

https://futo.org/grants/

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[–] Bell@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

This worked on me, I just became a contributor

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (33 children)

From what I can see, what's stopping a lot of people donating is the fact that donations cover .ml as well, I personally think this is a non-issue, because .ml doesn't cost much to run (from what I can see).

Would it be possible to split donations for lemmy development, and donations for lemmy.ml?

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[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago

Been donating monthly for a while now!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Donated via LiberaPay for 1 year.

[–] PCurd@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’ve been considering donating for a while (I already donate to my instance) so I’ve set that up now. ~$5 a month isn’t much but I hope it a few more people it too it will start to add up.

[–] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 12 points 1 week ago

Doubled my monthly donation hopefully more people will do the same.

I've been hosting my own instance for two years now without hiccups.

[–] peterg75@discuss.online 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for the work that you are doing.

Signed up on Patreon.

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[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sent something on your ETH address, check it on mainnet :))), and fiat on Ko-Fi too :))

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[–] dbl@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Made a yearly donation. Might not be a lot, but I hope others do the same. Keep up the good work ❤️

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[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Donated what I could on a hard month (something something insurance company something something half of my salary), but with heart. If the fundraiser persist, I'll be glad to donate more next month!

[–] Tieas@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just did the $5 donation on patreon. It's on a lot but I hope it helps, I might not agree with everything the founders believe in but I really appreciate this open sourced community and the ideas and conversations I've had on it. It's definitely worth supporting

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[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a little more then 24h into the campaign.

patreon increased from $871 to $1,138 (+30%).

liberapay rose from $301 to $393.66 (+30%).

I think it could have been improved further , the text could be a bit longer (I talked to Nutomic and few suggestion were kinda shortened too much IMO). but i think we can overall call the campaign a success. I realize we can tweak and experiment with this for far too long and without A/B testing we could be "fooled by randomness" and make the wrong choices. but we could measure how many people leave the page of the text before we expect them to finish reading to get a indication if it is too small or big. information beats speculation.

Anyway this text is now "field tested" and should probably be used more with maybe minor tweaks (link to it from the website donate page and the pop up).

Is there any evidence the pop up asking for donation is working as intended? , adding randomness to this could make it too hard to debug.

I think what it does prove beyond all doubt if the pop up is working is that the pop up text is not enough. People want a clear and persuasive rational. underestimation potential donors ability to read a short text could be a costly mistake. a quick googling indicates a optimal length of about 1,000 to 2,500 words while the current text stands at about 500 words.

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[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Literally all we need is everyone to kick in a couple bucks a month and I think everything would be in great shape. I think the user base is like 65k+ users currently?

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (16 children)

.world and .ee must be benefitting financially from your work; are they helping at all?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Afaik they also donate a bit, but they also dont have a lot of money to spare after server costs.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

There are donors from both of their communities

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Exactly, this is how I retired at 26

  • setup .world
  • pay all costs myself
  • ????
  • profit

Do you really think the people that setup instances make a lot of money?

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