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A Seattle-based appellate judge ruled that the practice does not meet the threshold for an illegal privacy violation under state law, handing a big win to automakers Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen and General Motors.

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a very good reason to not connect your phone to your car.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a very good reason to not buy any car which has this interception "feature".

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a very good way of saying don’t buy anything built in the last five years

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

*9 years, actually.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

Or you can deny the permission when you connect it

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Appellate court (appellate judge) aka second instance court. So while not the end of discussion, that is quite absurd.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought my first car this year, I am very happy with it, it is a 2021 Seat Leon PHEV, but shit like this is terrible.

I remember several years ago when I noted that cars had started comming with emergency SOS buttons and apps, that made me realize that there had to be a built in mobile phone connection, and after reading some more, yep, I was right, automakers put in a cell phone module with an eSIM that is allways connected, meaning the car keeps talking to the automakers servers, even if you don't connect a phone.

This means that it is worth it to the automakers to add a phone module and continously pay for a subscription for every car, even if you don't use the feature, that is scary.

[–] DarkwinDuck@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Working for a Mobile network provider that does connectivity for cars among other things i can add to that, that they are paying a fairly high price for this stuff too.

encrypt everything, layers and layers of encryption and then feed them garbage

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok so maybe the legislature should stop it

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Not just maybe. This must stop.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well, sucks for Washington.