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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Disappointing result but this seems like something for the legislature to fix. Courts aren't always the solution, sometimes you have to just fix the damn law.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

But that would mean the politicians would have to actually work instead of photo ops and promises!!!!

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[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

America sucks. Seriously. I'm just waiting for another country to bring it to the USA, because it seems inevitable.

People gotta stop putting faith into these ultimately crooked nations.

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[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

I mean ok but the fact that your car is spying on you has to break a thousand big tech nda’s

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how long until we get to jailbreak our cars just so those cock suckers can’t spy on us.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically you already can. I just hope you have extensive programming knowledge because you're going to have to take an axe to the existing code.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

May be able to find and remove whatever it's using as a cellphone antenna.

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[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

So ask the judge why car companies want to track judges?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Setting aside questions of legality, it seems kind of like it wouldn't encourage someone to purchase their cars.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 13 points 1 year ago

Not a problem! Jack used car prices up to new cars, prevent public infrastructure and provide benefits for cars, all car manufacturers have similar privacy policies. Combine all three and you have customers that need a car to live, might as well get a new one if decade old ones are the same price or have no stock, and suddenly there isn't much choice.

[–] rentar42@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

That only helps when there's viable alternatives. Since pretty much all auto manufacturers do something like this it's not really a distinguishing feature.

And even if it was: how much worse/more expensive would a car need to be for you to not pick it over one that reads your text messages. And then ask the same question not for "you", but for the average consumer. Then be sad ...

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[–] kryostar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well.. fuck. More reason to not buy newer cars. At least you Americans are lucky. You can drive a dinosaur if it met with regulations. You technically don't have to buy new cars.. ever.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Obvious next question: how’s the privacy policy on 3rd party stereo makers like Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, Jensen, etc.?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why risk it? Build your own with a raspberry pi and a touchscreen.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is what I want, but they make it very difficult to build something with parity unless you're willing to sniff CANBUS codes one by one

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[–] rchive@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got a link to a good project of that type? I've been thinking about this recently.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I am still so happy that I decided specifically to get a newish car that doesn't have a touchscreen or any of this nonsense.

[–] Someology@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What model did you buy? It is rare to see one these days that doesn't have all this nonsense.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2015 Buick encore. I did remove the fuse for the OnStar satellite nonsense though.

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[–] BlackPit@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It can't be illegal because you agree to allow them when you purchase the new vehicle. It's all there in the T&C and PP, which no one ever reads. Don't like it? Don't buy new cars. I won't.

[–] TheScaryDoor@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

Illegal terms in T&C are still illegal regardless of whether you agreed to them or not in the US.

[–] Asifall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So if I buy a used car they can’t do all that right?

Right?

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[–] kaidelorenzo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago

Just gotta get someone to hack their system. Then it'll be easy to prove damages

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, how are CARS intercepting mobile activities?

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

When you connect to Bluetooth, it asks your phone to share call, contact and SMS information.

Think like the old horrible headunit text implementation, the ability to scan your contact list from the car, and see your recent calls.

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[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Through android auto and apple car play would be my guess, but i don't know.

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yet another item on my list of why I'll never buy a modern car.

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