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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nice ..... I look forward to the next generation of AI counter counter measures that will make the internet an even more unbearable mess in order to funnel as much money and control to a small set of idiots that think they can become masters of the universe and own every single penny on the planet.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (21 children)

All the while as we roast to death because all of this will take more resources than the entire energy output of a medium sized country.

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

I will cite the scientific article later when I find it, but essentially you're wrong.

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

water != energy, but i'm actually here for the science if you happen to find it.

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[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Asking ChatGPT a question doesn't take 1 hour like most of these... this is a very misleading graph

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

This is actually misleading in the other direction: ChatGPT is a particularly intensive model. You can run a GPT-4o class model on a consumer mid to high end GPU which would then use something in the ballpark of gaming in terms of environmental impact.

You can also run a cluster of 3090s or 4090s to train the model, which is what people do actually, in which case it's still in the same range as gaming. (And more productive than 8 hours of WoW grind while chugging a warmed up Nutella glass as a drink).

Models like Google's Gemma (NOT Gemini these are two completely different things) are insanely power efficient.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn't even say which direction it was misleading, it's just not really a valid comparison to compare a single invocation of an LLM with an unrelated continuous task.

You're comparing Volume of Water with Flow Rate. Or if this was power, you'd be comparing Energy (Joules or kWh) with Power (Watts)

Maybe comparing asking ChatGPT a question to doing a Google search (before their AI results) would actually make sense. I'd also dispute those "downloading a file" and other bandwidth related numbers. Network transfers are insanely optimized at this point.

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[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 35 points 1 day ago

Wait… I just had an idea.

Make a tarpit out of subtly-reprocessed copies of classified material from Wikileaks. (And don’t host it in the US.)

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
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[–] hedhoncho@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Why are the photos all ugly biological things

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

They were generated using shitty AI models.

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