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Neovim >>> any ide

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 5 days ago

The IDEs of March

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.

  • it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
  • I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
  • if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either ❔
  • basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
  • if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
  • freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
[–] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

No, it only has an integrated html previewer. They removed the full integrated browser because it was unnecessary and an actual browser did the trick

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[–] palebluethought@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

#1 and 3, definitely, although 3 is usually not really the IDEs fault.

The others, either not really (#2, 5), who cares, (#4), or maybe occasionally but not really specific to IDEs (#6).

[–] lambdabeta@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

How is #6 not specific to IDEs? I've never had vim, np++, or any other dedicated editor freeze; and I've used them to edit multi-gigabyte log files before.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

I'd argue the benefits outweigh the downsides

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

At least the number of times I have to use the Clean Java Language Workspace in VS Code has declined recently. I mean, I still have to, just not as often.

[–] termaxima@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

In my experience, yes. Even coding in the basic notepad makes more sense.

[–] CodeMonkey@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

All of those are things that have happened to me (except an IDE that could not handle externally edited files). They are very rare occurrences, but still annoying when I have to get something done.

[–] Docker@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

Thanks for sharing this here 😊😊😊

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So, you've never actually used Emacs?

And possibly also never used vi either?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

LOL. Let me guess "just use Emacs/vim"?

No thank you bruv. Been there, done that. Terrible experience.

https://github.com/emacs-tw/awesome-emacs

https://www.spacemacs.org/

https://vimawesome.com/

https://github.com/lunarvim/lunarvim

All of these emulated only a fraction of the power of IDEs, even after weeks of trying to get them configured properly.

Inb4 "you're doing it wrong". Nah mate, IDEs work out of the box and don't require opening a text file to change settings while going through reams of documentation.

I right click in a file and it shows me the most important contextual commands. No need to find the " leader key", scroll through all the 1 billion commands, I don't have to "download a LSP and DAP" then "configure treesitter" or whatever the fuck kind of apes are in the editor.

Those editors have steep learning curves and get you productive eventually. IDEs get you there much more quickly. Yeah yeah, they hide complexity and "people don't know what's actually going on anymore" but sometimes I just want to get going instead of fighting my editor first. Feel me?

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

What is that hyperlink?

I swear to God if it is what I think it is, I'm going to jump into fucking traffic carrying as many baby ducks as I can.

[–] Hammerheart@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It looks like they put a license of use on their comment

[–] mdhughes@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

I only use nerdtree, and bind some scripts to F-keys. Haven't updated in a couple years, just works.

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 1 points 5 days ago

Easymotion is the only plugin I need to be happy.

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