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First of all, sorry if it is a dumb question but I have not found any satisfying answer regarding the matter.

I currently rock the 6xx with the E10k and they are really good for vocals and instruments. The bass is enough but I have realized that turning the bass boost does elevate the impressiveness at the expense of detail. I mostly listen to instruments and vocals so details are always my priority.

The problem is bass is that if I increase it, it lingers too long and drowns out the smaller details in the strings or rustling leaves for example. Is there a way to increase bass but make it dissipate quicker if that makes sense? Increasing bass makes it like the bass is reverberating in a big room. Kinda like putting the bass drum of an orchestra in a acoustically treated room so you hear the powerful bass but it does not reverberate too much to drown out the strings. I hope that makes sense.

Correct me on this but on my limited understanding, EQing means changing the decibels of the frequency? If so, maybe EQing certain frequency for certain loudness would solve that? So the louder bass is punchy but when it fades, it fades quickly because frequency is the same regardless of loudness?

Thanks in advance.

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[–] TURBO_SCROTUM@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Depends on the tech used I think.

I've found that IEMs that use some variation of bone conduction for bass (EE Odin, FiR Frontier series, etc) have a huge benefit of the bass being distinct from the rest. I can EQ the tits off of my FiR for example and never lose definition in the mids or highs. I assume that's because of the "kinetic bass" back vented DD they are using.

[–] ConsciousNoise5690@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is called masking. A bird is whistling and a trains rolls by. You simply won't hear the bird as its sound is masked by the train.

The same applies to a lot of consumer gear. It often comes with a V-shape frequency response as people love a thundering bass and a brilliant treble but it comes at he expense of the midrange. It is masked by the bass and the midrange is exactly the place where all acoustic instruments live.

The 6xx is reasonably neutral, keep it that way!

[–] BrutalFeather@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not a bass head so the 6xx are enough for me for music.

I was just trying to experiment with movies and action in particular would benefit a bit from bass it seems. Just a tad, nothing much.

But to be honest, i have notices that the E10k makes the 6xx a bit brighter than straight out of laptop. Do amps make headphones brighter?

[–] noerthman@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is probably because the onboard DAC in your laptop is not transparent. You should check your laptop spec sheet for details, but most likely yours has an entry level ALC/Realtek chip, which are known for being pretty lousy.

If this is the case, then yeah you would find most amps brighter than your laptop out.

[–] BrutalFeather@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That makes a lot of sense. I have a Asus TUF 505 GT with Realtek drivers installed so it might indeed be a Realtek chip.

Thanks for the clarifying answer.

[–] hackthatshityo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Any spectrum you Increase the other spectrum gets affected. No free lunch.

EQ in my opinion is best used in moderation or not at all.

You can’t make your headphone become something else.

I recommend to focus on better amplification