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So it looks like Trump has read the fascist playbook or something. I'm not surprised. I am concerned.

Edit: After thinking about it, I guess I am surprised that he can read.

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[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

And nearly half of the voters in the US think, “yeah that’s who I want leading my country.” This includes half of my extended family (the math at least checks out).

I will never understand the sheer lack of independent and critical thinking in the US. I get that the underfunded education system, the complete takeover of editorial news outlets which have never put forth actual news, and the inability for most people to shut up long enough to listen to reason, are just a very small number of examples of why America is in the state that it is; but at the end of the day, can’t people at least see evil when it’s speaking evil things to them? Is this what they truly want — a dictator who has used them, who doesn’t represent them at all, and who will do everything possible to rip apart the bonds of democracy?

Why are people so easily brainwashed?

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Why are people so easily brainwashed?

Lack of education. If your people had learned about Hitler in school (how he came to power and not just how the glorious allies under AMERICAN leadership won the war), they would have recognized the playbook of the Republicans and Trump especially long ago.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The most recent On The Media podcast has a section about this (Trump reporting and why people don't get it that he's stupid, crazy AND evil) that I feel like didn't go far enough. They have a guest talking who literally says "The journalists aren't doing their job, to inform the public." I wanted to respond "NO, they ARE doing their job. Their job isn't to inform the public, it's to make $$$ by creating content that maximizes consumer engagement, while pushing narratives that appeal to their CEOs and shareholders. They're doing EXACTLY their job. THAT'S the problem."

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[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Research Hitler's rise to power and also the rise of fascism generally. Also look up "boiled frog"

Also maybe read this TL;DR: by GPT. I think the big thing is people feel powerless to stop him. Also nobody wants him to be a martyr. There are plenty others, some worse, that would take his place.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ask a 1930s German adult. Fear. Whether it be a crashing economy, immigration, whatever. If you can get the fear hooks in them, you can absolutely get people to vote against their interests.

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

That seems so obvious, but as someone not inclined to succumb to fear, it’s never on my mind as a motivator.

Thank you for that insightful thought. I appreciate your mindfulness of that. I suppose it seems so easy for me to be able to look in from the outside and bang on the windows screaming at the top of my lungs about the danger of this narcissistic wannabe Hitler, but only to find out just how soundproof the house is on the inside in such a fog of fear and lies.

It’s a shame that millions of people are unable to divorce their fear from their cognition and ambition. I can only hope they wisen up at some point.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's scary how he isn't even subtle about it either. Even less subtle than his previous plans to overthrow the government (and I'm in Australia, and it wasn't even subtle with the limited US political media here)

[–] Dor7t0@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a bit concerning as an Australian since we're cosying right up to America with this AUKUS BS that Labor is continuing (I understand why, but I don't agree).

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[–] Teon@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Last time he was going to let us all die from covid.
This time he is actively going to hunt and kill us all.
Welcome to squid games bitches!!

(p.s. this orange kunt will never be president again)

[–] curiosityLynx@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

(p.s. this orange kunt will never be president again)

I sincerely hope and wish you are correct. But last I heard he was ahead in the polls. 😱

The democrats really should have gone with a new face rather than Biden round 2.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Put AOC up there tomorrow and she will win.

Keep Biden up there and he will lose.

Just shows how the voice and the vote of the people doesn't matter.

The Party does what The Party does.

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[–] Teon@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All the "news" and "polls" are so full of it. When we are close to election time, we will have a better measure. Polls this far away are just conjecture.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Last three election cycles were predicted to be red waves that never materialized. Get out and vote.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

Maybe we should follow Trump's advice from 2016 and explore the second amendment option.

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 12 points 10 months ago

*concentration camps

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Biden is funding genocide and is working in creating mechanisms that allow him to do so behind closed doors.

He has also made a few limp wristed pushes for things he has not delivered on, but if he is renewed, he has said he wants to TRY to do some of the things he promised some more.

To repeat, Biden funding of the genocide of Palestine sailed through with massive success.

Democrats need to find something better to offer. Fast.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And you're going to turn to the GOP, who is willing to deport you to the ME even if you are a natural born American? Good luck with that.

And keep in mind, the GOP position on the Hamas terrorist attacks is to give Israel all the arms and funding they want.

[–] ExpensiveConstant@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Thank you kind person.

[–] Maruki_Hurakami@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bill Burr in the background! Wonder when his wife flipped off Trump? I hope she doesn't apologize, I'll be disappointed.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did he talk about this on his podcast or something?

[–] Maruki_Hurakami@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not that I know of. There is a video where you can see Nia flipping off Trump. It was at the UFC event on Saturday.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is there supposed to be an article attached to this? All I'm getting is an image. I mean, I know trump has been threatening a lot of stuff, but I was curious if there were any specific examples of what he was planning or if this was just a general statement.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

IIRC there's a big ultraconservative group that is discussing and proposing what should be done come a R President in 2024. Apparently, this article is talking about that one. I don't remember the name of the group.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Project 2025

[–] Dor7t0@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I couldn't find any mention of this thread's headline through my browser's find function

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[–] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Still waiting for the adults to enter the room.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

I feel ya. All this just lends to increased dispair. Kierkegaard would be disappointed.

[–] Designate6361@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So thats where Vivek got that idea from

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