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I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until Adobe, and therefore my job, required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn't the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.
I feel like Adobe is one of the pioneers for DRM lol, They've always kept all their things under some kind of paywall.
Adobe reactivated my subscription without my permission and now won’t refund me. They have records of my subscription being cancelled in May but can’t explain why I was suddenly billed again in August.
That's fraud.
This is seriously deserving of an antitrust investigation. An open web is essential.
*Edit: referring to Chrome and its derivatives, not Adobe. Alphabet/Google has been begging for antitrust action for years.
Adobe has already proved they don't understand web technologies when creating Flash.
They didn't create Flash. They bought a company called Macromedia who had created Flash.
Proving they don’t understand web technologies...
Flash was pretty significant in the web's journey to where it is today. For things like online video, it was the least pain in the ass way, in a time when the alternative was crapware plug-ins like RealPlayer, QuickTime, or Windows Media Player.
YouTube probably wouldn't have existed without Flash and FLV.
Adobe is requiring customers to choose one of three different competing browsers, none of which are owned by Adobe.
There's no antitrust issue here.
The NHS' virtual appointment service in the UK doesn't support Firefox either, only Chrome, Safari and Edge. The dark days of "please view this website in Internet Explorer 6" are creeping closer to the present again. I hate the modern internet.
I hate them more for pioneering Software as a Service rent seeking crap. Why own software when you can become a revenue stream for Adobe. Die in a fire.
This is crap too tho.
As a software developer I have sympathy for this business model, but of course pricing has to be reasonable. A piece of software is a continuing social responsibility for the developer to fix new security issues, incompatibilities and bugs. If you only get paid a one-off sum the maintenance can drain you. A continued time-based fee is more in tune with how the actual development cost pans out.
I don't understand why Adobe was allowed to survive as a company when Flash player had like 500 security vulnerabilities daily.
and Acrobat too.
Because many companies and users were deliberately turned into illiterates about tech by big tech
When were they ever tech literate?
I guess the first step is to ask yourself about the services that you use daily , this was my first step to understand the importance of free software and all correlate topics but each person will have its own pathway to literation.
"We can't track you using this browser. Please use one of the following that we have agreements with."
Could you just get an extension that changes your user agent? They exist. I wonder if it would work.
I can’t believe I never thought about that - gotta try this later today
Adobe has been on the DRM bandwagon since forever.
You could use a user agent switcher to pretend that you are running chrome, edge or anything else
Go Affinity/Serif. Haven't looked back.
Love and use them for Photo, Publisher, and Designer, but there's no alternative for Lightroom. And honestly, I like Lightroom. It truly is the best at what it does. Simple, easy to use, great features, thoughtful design.
So the inevitable future begins. This will be the standard web very soon.
I’d stop using the web if this happened everywhere. I do use a user agent switcher or Ungoogled Chromium in a pinch though.
This is honestly why I have more then two browsers installed. But it is sad this DRM stuff is spreading.
What in the actual fuck is this, thank you for bringing this up I will never use an Adobe product ever
Digital RESTRICTIONS management / DRM is the core of Adobe
Oh, this shit again.
Remember when websites required the Internet Explorer? It didn't follow Web Standards back then.
I've run into multiple websites like this in the last 6 months. It sucks.
Sad thing is, the majority of users who encounter this will blame Mozilla instead of the parties that that are actually responsible
@galaxi What version of FF are you using? I can access Adobe Express perfectly fine (116.0.1 on Win 11 Pro)
I fear this kind of thing will become a trend.
User-agent switcher to get around it?
If safari is supported, then there is no reason to not supporting Firefox. What key features supported by safari required by adobe that's not supported by Firefox?
Out of all the modern browsers, it’s always Safari that I end up needing to write compatibility code for. I’m sure the app works fine on Firefox, they just haven’t tested it.
I got in on the Kickstarter for the Abode (not a misspelling) software suite by Stuart Semple and am hoping that when they release that it at least beats Darktable. Also, Darktable is pretty great as a free alternative to Lightroom.
Edit: I named him because he created the Freetone color palette when Pantone upped their license fee on Adobe. He also made a few paints and sells them at reasonable prices as an accessible alternative to more expensive paints.
https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/web-browsers/mozilla-firefox/246039/tip-use-firefox-for-web-apps
I haven't tried this yet, and the page is from 2021. Perhaps the feature is still experimental or lost. Otherwise I use chromium to avoid the Google bloat.
