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How to handle humiliation by family when you are a failed entrepreneur at age 35?

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[–] autisticgymbro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Get a job and cut them off

[–] NoRubicon@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The man in the arena. Look it up. Or watch this video. Always cheers me up

https://youtu.be/A311CnTjfos?si=KmHrMZ95ZMZS69OY

[–] guyunderthequilt@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's gonna be okay, it's okay to fail. You don't have to stop though, try again after a few months or years. And as for the humiliation, try to shift your mindset from "what they think of you" to "what you think of yourself". Always think well and be supportive of yourself, it can be hard but it is like a muscle. Celebrate the small wins and take it slow.

I always remind myself of this quote from Rilke - "Let everything happen to you. Beauty and terror. Just keep going. No feeling is final".

[–] Purpledragonbro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Just don't stop building. Continue building things until you make money. Nothing else matters . You only fail if you stop

[–] mcgrawjt@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Failed entrepreneur- what’s that?

Failure is an essential part of entrepreneurship. You have to learn to fail the right way.

I would highly suggest this podcast.

Amy Edmondson - Harvard Business. Three Types of Failure.

[–] PlanetMazZz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tbh it makes sense

If they worked and didn't chase their dreams their entire lives and stated responsible, it's probably frustrating to watch someone chase their dream while not prioritizing security and stability

They probably would of been happy if you succeeded but since you didn't they're probably at least a little disappointed

There is probably some envy there but it's normal human emotion, you were doing what you wanted and they weren't because they felt they couldn't for some reason

I wouldn't let this affect your emotion with them

Understandably you're disappointed too but get a job, move on and be kind to your loved ones

[–] gathem70@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You are young enough to completely fail, hit rock bottom, declare bankruptcy, pull yourself up, start over and try again at least 4-5 more times. Failure is a stepping stone to success. Drop your ego, stop caring about what others think, reflect on what you learned, what value you can create, and go try again.

[–] intatewetrust@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Start a new biz. All it takes is one to succeed. You arent a failed entrepreneur especially at 35, you’ve got all the energy in the world to start a new one.

And stop giving a fuck about their views of you, Chase your mission and goals.

Opinions Dosnt matter

And Also when you succeed they Will change.

And if its necessary, Cut Them out :) sometimes thats the thing it takes. Its rough yes.

[–] ThePerspective1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly man, fk em. If you believe you truly failed, then ya, you failed. But failure and success are on the same exact road, you just find one sooner. As long as you're not dependent on your family, you should disregard what they're saying and keep going and pursuing entrepreneurship if that's what you want. 35 is young, you got it. You may have to switch directions but that's alright.

Change your language man, "failed entrepreneurs" don't exist. If you're innovative, be innovative.

[–] dudeonahill@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I’m willing to bet they secretly want you to fail so they can’t feel better about never taking a risk. I’d rather die without regrets than live someone else’s dream.

So fuck em and keep grinding. This community knows just how hard it is.

[–] bleeeeghh@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You're an entrepeneur. You didn't fail just tell them about your great new idea and convince them to invest in it.

[–] Subject-Owl165@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Not everyone understands the entrepreneur’s mind that’s in you. Just keep the good fight and when success is beside you watch what happens. Don’t sweat what others say too much the beginning is always tough. Failing is part of the process at times. I’ve always just said NEXT. Retired at 49 with no complaint’s.

[–] Cakelord@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Set boundaries with your family

[–] Analog_Seekrets@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Stop taking to them. I was/ am in a similar situation with my family. Im in a service based industry and my city had two years almost straight of lockdowns and I didn’t get a single client. Took on a lot of debt and now I’m working to pay off that debt but I have a job with a growing business.

Im married and live on my own. I cut off my family completely. I am SOOOOO much happier not talking to them and they are complete assholes about it which furthers my point. I will talk to them when I feel like it.

[–] IbizaMykonos@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I’m sorry your family is like that. My father is like that. Being an entrepreneur isnt easy. But you’ve undoubtedly learned something and there’s still plenty of time for you. Ignore their lameness and keep thinking of ways to succeed and try to not pass their bad habits onto others.

[–] aatomik@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You took a risk, and that deserves respect. Not humiliation. The family dynamic you describe, seems pretty toxic. I don’t think you owe them an explanation. Perhaps doing your own thing and spending less time with them, would go a long way.

[–] armstrong698@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I just wanted to pop along to salute you for attempting to do what most people don’t have the bottle or vision for. I honestly believe people like you are never off the horse for long and one day you might have become a success! Not only is entrepreneurship work, it’s damn hard work. Take your learnings, remain humble and plan your next move.

[–] ScarletteDemonia@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You didn’t fail because you tried! That’s impressive .

[–] MrBrightsighed@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Its better to have tried and failed, than to have never tried at all. If you had done well they would be asking you for money

[–] mandesign@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

In short, fuck em.

Maybe Teddy Rose said it better,

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

[–] Smaul_McFartney@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Keep trying and keep getting better for starters. Also people pick up on subtle non verbal and low key verbal cues. Make sure you aren’t projecting a sense that you have failed. I lost several business opportunities before one stuck and made me the most successful member of my family from the least successful a few years previous. It legitimately takes a lot of failure. So persistence and resistance to failure is one of thee paramount success markers. In summary, don’t give up if your rational mind tells you you’ve got the chops for it and don’t cue their judgment by judging yourself. GOBLESS BIRTHER,,,WORK HARD LIKE A BBC

[–] 000-DARK-000@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People love to put other people down to feel better or superior. You didn't fail. You tried something to improve your life. Even if your business doesn't work anymore you still learned a ton. I would stop listening to your family. Go your own way, fail, stand up, learn and fail more. That's the way to success.

[–] PodPitch@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Entrepreneurship is always a work in progress, even when someone is "succesful" ... "Failed entrepreneur" is an interesting sentence. If they are shaming you for trying to build something, shame on them

[–] asuka_rice@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Don’t give up.

Reflect why you encountered failure, could it be fixed and is there a viable market for the product or service that can sustain your lifestyle or wealth expectations.

If it’s still a good business idea then carry on and side hustle on another job to allow for your living expenses to be covered and just make it happen on a longer timeframe. If it’s a bad idea then move on, understand failure is just a moment in time try your luck on another business project.

[–] SteveFoerster@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If your family members are abusive, simply avoid them. You're 35, not 15.

[–] SharkFuji@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

eAsY BrO. GeT RiCh AsF aNd FlEx On ThE BrOkIeS. bro you're 35, stop associating with toxic people, also stop chasing validation and recognition. it's perfectly fine to not participate in the rat race but also statistically likely whatever you're doing will fail as well. either try again or join the rat race. nothing in life is ever that serious

[–] miteycasey@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Keep going. And try to be happy

[–] Beginning-Low6361@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Try again and again until you’re successful so they feel stupid for making you feel that way in the first place:

[–] fanomvibes@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Your idea will fail eventually if it’s not a evergreen business. Don’t chase trends, don’t chase feelings. Ask yourself is this a evergreen product or not? You’re not going to fail if you sell things like pet supplies, or if you offer junk removal services. Cleaning services. Maybe a marketing agency? Not sure if marketing agencies can get replaced by AI, the creative aspect is what makes it somewhat evergreen. It’s constantly changing so you would have to adapt to the changes.

Don’t over indulge in passion and stay away from overly complex industries. Find a balance between the two then voila! Success!

[–] M00n_Life@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

use that anger and frustration. Listen to it. Feel it. And then show them again.

It's always about the last one laughing

[–] CapnTreee@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

12 start ups, sold 2.. others failed but also brought in $5M in a decade before failing. Kids were fed, college educated, 5 bd house paid off.. but I failed Umm okay try to do better before speaking to me… meanwhile #13 is in prototyping phase. I’m not done. She’s gone.. with the house. I take that as a win too.

[–] rjm101@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Every failure is a valuable lesson. Say you wish to fail more and faster so that the path to success becomes even more clear.

[–] WillfulKind@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

When family says something hurtful I find it’s jealousy and judgment of their own choices.

If you wanna hit them back then you can say, “Most people think they can be entrepreneurial but are only suited for one role because the brisk overtakes them. For me, the biggest risk was how I spend my time because you are what you do.”

And then don’t explain yourself. Smile and nod when they say they could’ve done XY or Z and say “Sure!” and then KNOW you were there doing the grind like a champ while you watch them tear themselves to ribbons trying to explain why 20 years of being a cog was meaningful.

If their career was meaningful they wouldn’t be disrespectful of your meaningful career.

[–] Indaflow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Keep failing until your 50 so that this pales in comparison.

[–] BladerKenny333@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Your family shouldn't be trying to humiliate you. That's not right what they're doing to you.

There is also nothing wrong with failing. Your journey should be a mixture of failures and successes.

[–] jsdb95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If you have tried your best then you have nothing to be embarrassed about. Having said this self reflection about why you haven’t had success yet is important.

[–] GoodyTwoKicks@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have nothing to be humiliated about. You took a chance that they would never even think of in their lifetime.

They believe if you work for other successful people, you’ve accomplished life. Old Skool thinking.

Because let’s be honest, if your business would’ve taken off and you’d be making millions, they’d STILL find a way to hate rather than to congratulate. They’d probably still be like “ Oh, your business isn’t as big as “ so and so.

You have no reason to feel humiliated by them. They don’t see what you see. You don’t need that approval.

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[–] waywardcowboy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The only real failure is a failure to try. It takes a lot of courage to start your own business, and the majority of small ventures fail. The fact that you tried puts you ahead of the rest IMO.

[–] SexSlaveeee@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Understand. What people don't often think about is that only a small number of us get to success.

i think just get a job and return to normal life.

Success looks just like failure until you make it

[–] MikaAckerman33@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

May we know first how can you descirbe yourself as a failed entrepreneur? Some context here. Thanks OP

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