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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, yeah, he was there, being offensively non-violent. That's the point he's making. He knows how easy it is for the authorities to use any sort of physical (and sometimes even just verbal) aggression as an excuse to start to escalate things.

He's not saying "don't protest". He's giving tips on how to.

People please remember there are people actively posting Russian propaganda and trying to divide and break the US even further.

The first fight is against disinformation and propaganda.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Yeah, defeat fascism with a witty sign and a good chant! Law enforcement will NEVER escalate if you don't!

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[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

There is no protest against the status-quo that the press (including "the liberal press") can't depict as violent. You have seen the female Australian reporter being targeted with a rubber bullet on camera only to have her own channel report it as her "being caught in the crossfire" right? Hasan was out there for two days documenting the incredible violent reaction of law enforcement to what has been almost completely non violent protests against the unlawful kidnappings of immigrants. He knows what he is talking about. If your concern is not the well being of the protesters but three fucking waymos or people waving Mexican flags, you are just self-reporting.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 2 weeks ago

Rubber-coated bullet*

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There was also a vastly different media landscape when Dr. King made his speeches. The level of surveillance now is so much higher that its trivial to find or create footage of violence if you want it.

There is no level of discipline where the media will portray it as anything but violence. I don't think sanders is enterely wrong here, but I understand how in the year 2025 sander's statement is a bit cringe inducing.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

He probably was literally murdered by the surveillance state

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

What are your goals with this post?

Edit

Found more details about Bernie's arrest here: https://medium.com/@ShaunKing/you-dont-really-know-who-bernie-sanders-was-in-the-1960s-79628016125f

I know it wasn't the point of this post, but thanks for teaching me about this bit of history! This helped me understand why he emphasized discipline.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Have people understand that being a progressive does not mean blindly following Bernie Sanders.

Because past Bernie stood for what present Bernie admonishes.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I won't pretend to know much about Bernie's history, but I do have a couple of thoughts with which you may or may not agree.

  1. We should never blindly follow any politician.
  2. Politicians should be expected to change/evolve. It's probably a good idea to consider the delta to understand each politician's trajectory.

Out of curiosity, do you prefer past or present Bernie?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Past Bernie is the guy in the left image of the original Tweet. Who was attacked with the same slander as present Bernie is spewing.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Alright this got me curious, so I researched the matter further. I do believe you are wrong here.

From what I can gather, Bernie was arrested for being chained together with others to protest the installation of Willis Wagons. This was nonviolent. When the police arrested him, he kicked, screamed, and resisted the entire way.

Source: https://medium.com/@ShaunKing/you-dont-really-know-who-bernie-sanders-was-in-the-1960s-79628016125f

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't think Hasan actually read Bernie's post.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't think you understand Bernie's post.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He's telling people to keep the protests peaceful. He's literally speaking from 1st hand experience about what works to achieve your goals.

How exactly does that play into Trump's narrative?

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This comment section shows exactly why we should be wary of those who label themselves as progressive vs leftist or socialist/communist.

Y’all clearly aren’t trustworthy. Reformists who see themselves as reasoned revolutionaries. You still reflexively shove that boot in your mouth on command.

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