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Hey, guys! A little over a year ago I started working on a mobile app to sync notes from org-roam with my phone, so far this is what I've got. The main motivation is to take notes not only in emacs but also on mobile devices. Also, I would like to share my notes with colleagues and friends without the crooked synchronization via markdown
This is an early beta version of the app, however I would like to open access to test offline functionality, active testers will also get access to synchronization in the future.
Pretty cool! Currently I'm using Orgzly (well.. Orgzly revived since development stopped https://github.com/orgzly-revived/orgzly-android-revived )
Web might be enough for me but do you plan on making an Android version?
Right now I use git to track all of my org documents but syncing and capturing from my phone is a pain. I need git because I run actions to update calendar services when things change. Would love something that I could seamlessly integrate with capture that also is a useful note viewer.
This could be awesome
This looks amazing! I've been wishing for something like that for a while.
from what I've heard this would be difficult. But do you consider creating an ios app long-term?
Looks promising. Спасибо!
Can you tell me if there are plans for the mobile client to work without a backend? That is, just specify a folder where my org-roam files are located and work with them. I already have such a folder and I access it with Emacs running in Termux (we are talking about Android). The folder is synchronized using Syncthing. Accordingly, I don't have any special need for a backend or extensions to synchronize with it.... Only
I use Syncthing and Organice, which works nicely together. I think I just gave Organice access to a single folder in Android.
Do you have plans to upload the app to F-droid?
Sure!
Awesome; thank you.
Wow, looks awesome!
This was always my dream for org-roam-ui, but sadly life got in the way of me making it a reality. Very happy to see it could inspire someone to do a proper job of it,good luck!
Is there any chance I can use it on an iphone?
Right now you can install PWA for ios, it works almost like a native app.
An ios developer account costs about 100$ per year. If we raise this amount on patreon, I will publish the app in app store as well
Yeah! Really good work! This is a step in the right direction for moving people away from propietary note apps like notion.
Any prospect of an iOS app?
Right now you can install [PWA](https://github.com/Artawower/orgnote/wiki/orgnote-install#pwa-1) for ios, it works almost like a native app.
An iOS developer account costs about 100$ per year. If we raise this amount on Patreon, I will publish the app in the app store as well
What's your plan for synchronization issues? I mean, lots of guys, it's going to use primarily a desktop environment and I guess mainly using the phone to have a browser kind of functionalities as primary features. Okay, active test server will get access to synchronize in the future. I saw your information about what's your plan here? Are you going to use a syncthing or your own version of server?
I am currently working on my own note synchronization server (I need it because I plan to try to integrate CRDT in the future).
I would also like to mention that currently notes are not encrypted on the client side. However, I also plan to implement this in the future.
I do not plan to integrate third-party synchronization mechanisms, but I will be working on an API that allows for custom extensions. With this API, developers will be able to create their own note synchronization mechanisms
IMHO the best way would be using git, which is literally made to resolve this kind of conflicts and it's very battle tested. I've always had issues syncing notes until I switched to git.
As far as I know, git can't be used for real-time synchronization and simultaneous collaborative editing. But I'll give it some thought
is simultaneous collaborative editing a real need though? I'd say org notes are usually edited by a single person, often from multiple devices, unless you are trying to create a Google Docs competitor, I don't think that's a feature that is actually needed.
git also has the advantage of complete history and easy rollbacks.
I've given up using Orgzly because the syncing is atrocious, it has restored deleted notes multiple times. I'm now using Organice with gitlab backend and it works very well.
I need to think about it. The server functionality is also needed to share notes, although it may be possible to combine it with git storage as well
For what it's worth, I collaborate with 1 other person, and for me it'd be sufficient if you simply alerted the user that someone else is currently editing the notes, locking them until the other user is done. What's a much bigger problem is if someone edits the notes offline tries to sync them later!
I do collaborate on org notes with a partner! I agree with you that true simultaneous editing is unnecessary, but it'd be nice if the app flagged that someone else is currently editing the notes and locked them until the other person is done.
This is amazing!
Hey! This looks very promising! A quick question if you don't mind me asking:
Is the pwa version meant to be self hosted or to be locally run similarly to or-roam-ui?
I if can self host it on a server and sync/edit notes this would be a dream come true for me :)
Thanks!
Hi!, you don't need to run it locally, just create a bookmark from the site as described here https://github.com/Artawower/orgnote/wiki/orgnote-install, or download it from release page if you have android phone
You can deploy your own backend, but I think right now some env values are hardcoded and you might run into a problem, besides there is no manual on how to do it.
Also, I need to provide the functionality to choose a server from the client side.. Right now you are forced to recompile app for a new server with new API_URL and AUTH_URL env variables
It would be great to make it work without a backend, syncing files through the gitlab api, like Organice does
I don't plan to implement this, however, in future versions, I will provide a client-side API that will allow developers to write their own sync provider
Great work mate. Keep it up. I tinkered with native iOS app for a bit and abandoned few years back. Will try this one.
oh i love this so much, will be watching this project
Another questions about plans :-) :
Do you have plans to add:
- ? org.gpg files encryption/decryption on mobile device
- ? markdown syntax support for non-Emacs guys
You are thinking of applying for the EmacsConf conference because this masterpiece is something that was long expected. +9999 in Emacs-Fu God of God 99/10
Thank you for your review, it's my pleasure.
I think not, for a number of reasons
I'm not very confident in my English, so I need to prepare...and that will take a lot of time, I don't have it now.
This app is still very, very far from what I see it as, maybe when I'm halfway done I'll consider it, cause it could be interesting to invite other developers to write plugins..
In 4th image, Is it a mindmap or just an image?
It's interactive graph, like org-roam-ui has
So you have build this feature yourself , is there any instructions I could follow to build it myself someday?
Do you mean graph construction? Or how to create something like that from scratch in your application?
In the first case, just create notes with links to other notes, for example like this [[id:][link-name]], the graph will be built automatically.
In the second case, have a look at https://github.com/vasturiano/force-graph.
just wanted to say that if this stays alive i will 100% be moving from obsidian to this. org based mobile notes with backlinks and folders is everything i've ever wanted and more
Congratulation! It looks awesome! I'm the author of Metanote. You've implemented the feature that I wanted to do but haven't completed yet. If there's an opportunity, I hope we can discuss and collaborate.
Hey! No problem! if you have any questions or suggestions, contact me via email app.orgnote@gmail.com or directly via discord
Do you need to be using org-roam to use this? Looks very promising but my system is all based around just regular org.
Org roam is just an approach to have links between notes, you are free to use OrgNote without such links. Currently there is only one limitation, you need to have an id property for each note you want to synchronize.
This is a temporary limitation, I plan to generate an id for any org file the user intends to synchronize (if that file doesn't already have an id).